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meirman
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: heroic, again Reply with quote

On the news tonight, the police were chasing another car, that was
speeding. Then the car rammed the police car and kept going.

When it was ahead of the police, but still in view, the car stopped
and put out a package. One police car pulled up in front of the
package while another police car passed that one and kept chasing the
speeder. The package was a baby seat with a baby in it.

The newcaster said the baby was saved because of the heroic actions of
the police.

Do you think that was heroic?

BTW, the in-car camera in the police car showed him slowing down, and
just before he stopped saying, "The baby is in the road, the baby is
in the road." Do you think he was heroic?

-- This has been a post from the continuing series against "heroic".
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don groves
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: heroic, again Reply with quote

In article <icdfk0tlq5e51rq4drqsurslghf7fclevo@4ax.com>,
meirman@invalid.com wrote...
Quote:
On the news tonight, the police were chasing another car, that was
speeding. Then the car rammed the police car and kept going.

When it was ahead of the police, but still in view, the car stopped
and put out a package. One police car pulled up in front of the
package while another police car passed that one and kept chasing the
speeder. The package was a baby seat with a baby in it.

The newcaster said the baby was saved because of the heroic actions of
the police.

Do you think that was heroic?

BTW, the in-car camera in the police car showed him slowing down, and
just before he stopped saying, "The baby is in the road, the baby is
in the road." Do you think he was heroic?


Newscasters have overused superlatives to the extent of rendering
them meaningless. I saw the same newscast, the officers involved
were doing their jobs and did nothing differently from what you
or I would have done under the same circumstances. They knew
they were chasing a kidnapper and that a baby was in the car.
What else could the one officer have done, run over the baby?
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dg (domain=ccwebster)
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meirman
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: heroic, again Reply with quote

In alt.english.usage on Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:35:57 -0700 don groves
<dgroves@domain.net> posted:

Quote:
In article <icdfk0tlq5e51rq4drqsurslghf7fclevo@4ax.com>,
meirman@invalid.com wrote...
On the news tonight, the police were chasing another car, that was
speeding. Then the car rammed the police car and kept going.

When it was ahead of the police, but still in view, the car stopped
and put out a package. One police car pulled up in front of the
package while another police car passed that one and kept chasing the
speeder. The package was a baby seat with a baby in it.

The newcaster said the baby was saved because of the heroic actions of
the police.

Do you think that was heroic?

BTW, the in-car camera in the police car showed him slowing down, and
just before he stopped saying, "The baby is in the road, the baby is
in the road." Do you think he was heroic?


Newscasters have overused superlatives to the extent of rendering
them meaningless. I saw the same newscast, the officers involved

Very interesting. Were you also watching the 11 PM local news from
the NBC channel (11) in Baltimore? Or does the narrative that the
local newscaster says come already written from the network.

The second wouldn't surprise me, but they ought to review what is sent
and not just reading it blindly.

Quote:
were doing their jobs and did nothing differently from what you
or I would have done under the same circumstances. They knew
they were chasing a kidnapper and that a baby was in the car.

I probably wasn't listening at the start of the story, or I would have
included that. I was reading usenet. I did notice that the cop
didn't say, "It's a baby", he called it "The baby".

Quote:
What else could the one officer have done, run over the baby?

Apparently that's what a non-hero would have done.

s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.

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Indianapolis, 7 years
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Michael DeBusk
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: heroic, again Reply with quote

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:28:11 -0400, meirman <meirman@invalid.com> wrote:

Quote:
Do you think that was heroic?

No. It was business.

The sad part about people praising as "heroic" every action performed
by a police officer, firefighter, Paramedic, or what-have-you is that
people stop paying attention to the word. Then, when a public safety
professional really does go above and beyond the call, it's no big
deal. As I heard someone say once, if you save the world too often, it
starts to expect it.

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Michael DeBusk
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: heroic, again Reply with quote

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:35:57 -0700, don groves <dgroves@domain.net> wrote:

Quote:
What else could the one officer have done, run over the baby?

Isn't that something like a thousand points?

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don groves
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: heroic, again Reply with quote

In article <RpT1d.2083$n16.63@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
m_debusk@despammed.com wrote...
Quote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:35:57 -0700, don groves <dgroves@domain.net> wrote:

What else could the one officer have done, run over the baby?

Isn't that something like a thousand points?

No, to get that score the baby must be in a baby carriage in a
marked crosswalk and you must kill the nanny as well. I'd say
only 750 at best for the officer.
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Guo Yan
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject: Re: heroic, again Reply with quote

If like you described, the police did nothing.

"meirman" <meirman@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:icdfk0tlq5e51rq4drqsurslghf7fclevo@4ax.com...
Quote:
On the news tonight, the police were chasing another car, that was
speeding. Then the car rammed the police car and kept going.

When it was ahead of the police, but still in view, the car stopped
and put out a package. One police car pulled up in front of the
package while another police car passed that one and kept chasing the
speeder. The package was a baby seat with a baby in it.

The newcaster said the baby was saved because of the heroic actions of
the police.

Do you think that was heroic?

BTW, the in-car camera in the police car showed him slowing down, and
just before he stopped saying, "The baby is in the road, the baby is
in the road." Do you think he was heroic?

-- This has been a post from the continuing series against "heroic".
--

s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.

Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis, 7 years
Chicago, 6 years
Brooklyn NY 12 years
Baltimore 20 years
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Michael DeBusk
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: heroic, again Reply with quote

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:23:17 -0700, don groves <dgroves@domain.net> wrote:

Quote:
Isn't that something like a thousand points?

No, to get that score the baby must be in a baby carriage in a
marked crosswalk and you must kill the nanny as well. I'd say
only 750 at best for the officer.

Ordinarily, yes, but who could have known that it would even be
possible for a baby to be in a... car seat, was it?... in the middle of
the road? I'm sure the judges would come up with a generous score.

--
Michael DeBusk, Co-Conspirator to Make the World a Better Place
Did he update http://home.earthlink.net/~debu4335/ yet?
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don groves
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: heroic, again Reply with quote

In article <3a92d.2997$n16.2985
@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, m_debusk@despammed.com
wrote...
Quote:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:23:17 -0700, don groves <dgroves@domain.net> wrote:

Isn't that something like a thousand points?

No, to get that score the baby must be in a baby carriage in a
marked crosswalk and you must kill the nanny as well. I'd say
only 750 at best for the officer.

Ordinarily, yes, but who could have known that it would even be
possible for a baby to be in a... car seat, was it?... in the middle of
the road? I'm sure the judges would come up with a generous score.

That is beyond my area of expertise, you'll have to contact the
AIJKB, _International Association of Baby Killer Judges_, in
English.
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dg (domain=ccwebster)
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