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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:16 am
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"lxe-14" <noway@nospammmm.fr> wrote in message
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"retrosorter" <hrichler@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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The epithet "pepsi" or "pepsi mae west" has for a long time been
applied to French Canadians, by English- Canadians because of their
supposed preference for Pepsi over Coke and for liking the chocolate
bar called Mae West. Does anyone know when this term originated and
whether it still is considered insulting? The reason I ask is because a
couple of daysd a group of Quebecois youths referring to each other as
"pepsis" in a light-hearted manner.
30-40 years ago, Pepsi was cheaper than Coke, and french canadian only
bought Coke for special occasion. the rich anglo was drinking Coke and the
poor franco was drinking pepsi. Thats it.
First time I hear the epithet Mae West.
In 2005, only frogs or french frogs is being used usually. There are many
reasons about that epithet. But I think it was because we were eating
frog's
leg. (Its not from me, saw that on a tv show). Rarely someone will use
Pepsi
anymore.
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Eating frog legs in Quebec is as unusual as in the rest of Canada. |
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BillyJoe
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:17 am
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Be nice, we all have colons.
--
From the Desk
of
Jusin Kase
Citizen of Uranus
http://jusinkase.blogspot.com
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"Robert Pauzé" <pauze@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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Les origines sont plus lointaines que la publicté de Meunier. La vraie
raison c'est qu'effectivement il se vendait plus de Pepsi que de Coke au
Québec et à cette époque pour le même prix, le format du Pepsi était
plus
gros. Donc les anglos nous considéraient comme des 'CHEAPS' de boire une
marque qui offrait quelques onces de plus pour le mëme prix. On laissait
sous-entendre que l'on sacrifiait la qualité pour la quantité.
Effectivement, il s'est toujours plus vendu de pepsi que de coke au
Québec
et nous serions donc une exception en amérique.
Des colons!
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Ben Mercier
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:41 pm
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"Roland Hutchinson" <my.spamtrap@verizon.ent> wrote:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:53:44 +0000 (UTC),
peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan) wrote:
Our local Pizza Hut often offers a reduced-price deal for the combination
of a pizza and a bottle of Pepsi. If I ask for "the special deal but
without the Pepsi" it doesn't work. If I decide to take the bottle
anyway, and then offer it back to the staff as a gift, nobody will
take the gift because nobody there likes Pepsi. As a result, the garbage
bin outside the shop fills up with unopened bottles of Pepsi.
The garbage bin is exactly where substandard colas belong,
And substandard pizza, too.
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Hehehe!
One thing though...the Pepsi made in Quebec doesn't taste the same as
everywhere else in North America. It's much better with a LOT of gaz in it
(and is usually MORE expensive than Coca-Cola).
I had a Pepsi once in Florida ($0.30 for a can in a Pepsi machine at the
supermarket, as opposed to ~$1 here) I thought it was a deal until I taste
it...I was like "WTF is that?!" and I threw it away. I tried another one a
few days later...same result.
No wonder the Pepsi is cheap and nobody want to drink that down there.
Ben |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:15 pm
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 03:33:42 +0000 (UTC), R J Valentine
<rj@TheWorld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In alt.usage.english Charles Riggs <chriggs@éircom.net> wrote:
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} Although Coop likes to argue this, a US restaurant can serve either
} Coca-Cola (the Real Thing) or Pepsi-Cola, but not both. I suspect it
} works the same way in other countries.
How about supermarkets? Can they sell either Coca Cola or Pepsi Cola, but
not both? If a restaurant sells HoJo Cola, can it sell Dr Pepper?
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I only do Pepsi and Coke cola questions, Arjay: I don't know from HoJo
Cola or, yuck, Dr Pepper. The restrictions on serving Coca-Cola apply
only to restaurants, drive-ins included. That is the simple point that
has consistently confused poor Coop. In attempting to argue my point,
he wants, although he doesn't make it clear, to bring in *sales* of
the products from supermarkets, soft drink machines, and his favourite
outlet, 7-11; they are another issue. |
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nadagami
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:11 pm
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"Peter Moylan" <peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> a écrit dans le message de
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| Quote: | Rattus The RAT turpitued:
Question du langage (je ne suis pas francophone, étant ici du
alt.usage.english) : est-ce qu'on utilise normalement une verbe
au pluriel avec "le monde" ?
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Non.
nadagami |
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John Titor
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:43 pm
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| You really dont know what your talking about... |
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retrosorter
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:26 pm
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First time I hear the epithet Mae West.
Léandre Bergeron in The Québécois Dictionary (1982) has the entry
'"Pepsi maewest" defined as ""Name given by Quebec Anglophones to the
Québécois (pejorative). |
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NG
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:31 pm
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"John Titor" <Timetravel1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Do you? |
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John_Kane
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:05 pm
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Ben Mercier wrote:
| Quote: | "retrosorter" <hrichler@sympatico.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
The epithet "pepsi" or "pepsi mae west" has for a long time been
applied to French Canadians, by English- Canadians because of their
supposed preference for Pepsi over Coke and for liking the chocolate
bar called Mae West. Does anyone know when this term originated and
whether it still is considered insulting? The reason I ask is because a
couple of daysd a group of Quebecois youths referring to each other as
"pepsis" in a light-hearted manner.
It's spelled "May West" and it's not a chocolate bar, it's a small cake:
http://img272.echo.cx/img272/8606/maywest3fq.jpg
As for being called Pepsi, it's not considered "insulting"...mainly because
it's not used in Quebec at all
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I have not lived in QC for about 5 years but I have heard the term used
very occasionally by francophones in the Outaouais. The first time I
heard it was probably 35 years ago in an office I was visting in
Ottawa. A francophone woman described another woman as "une pepsi". I
remember that no one else in the office of 10 -15 people seemed to
recognise the term and so she explained that a pepsi bottle was empty
from the neck up.
The last time I heard it was probably 6-7 years ago when one of my
quite young francophone colleages, who had been having a hard time with
someone on the telephone, hung up and said "Une vraie pepsi". She used
it somehing in the same way one might say "A real bimbo".
Blast but that May West looks good.
John Kane
Kingston ON
and very few quebecers know about this
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at the offender.
Ben |
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Hugo Villeneuve
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:14 pm
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NG <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "John Titor" <Timetravel1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You really dont know what your talking about...
Do you?
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It's been a while since I ate frog legs but it was common in
canadianized chinese "buffet" restaurant in my youth.
I don't remember eating any in a long time though.
In any case, it's quite good. Would I prepare them myself from whole
frogs, probably not.
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Hugo Villeneuve <hugo@EINTR.net> |
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NG
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:20 pm
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"Hugo Villeneuve" <hugo@EINTR.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | NG <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
"John Titor" <Timetravel1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You really dont know what your talking about...
Do you?
It's been a while since I ate frog legs but it was common in
canadianized chinese "buffet" restaurant in my youth.
I don't remember eating any in a long time though.
In any case, it's quite good. Would I prepare them myself from whole
frogs, probably not.
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Hugo Villeneuve <hugo@EINTR.net
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Frog legs is a very exotic meal in Quebec. Something the vast majority has
never tried or only tried once in their life.
Just because we speak French doesn't mean we share the same culture as
France. Quebec is to France what Australia is to England. Or Mexico vs
Spain.
Anyway about that Frog thing maybe it was because Cousteau invented the
Frogman suit in the 40's ? |
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Denis Beauregard
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:37 pm
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Le Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:39:53 -0400, "lxe-14" <noway@nospammmm.fr>
écrivait dans soc.culture.quebec:
| Quote: | In 2005, only frogs or french frogs is being used usually. There are many
reasons about that epithet. But I think it was because we were eating frog's
leg. (Its not from me, saw that on a tv show). Rarely someone will use Pepsi
anymore.
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Charlebois song may have changed the scope of frog:
I'm a frog, you're a frog, kiss me. And I'm
turning to a prince, suddenly. Donne-moi des
pinottes pis j'm'en vas te chanter alouette
sans fausses notes...
Denis |
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Oliver Cromm
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:58 am
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* Ben Mercier wrote:
| Quote: | One thing though...the Pepsi made in Quebec doesn't taste the same as
everywhere else in North America. It's much better with a LOT of gaz in it
(and is usually MORE expensive than Coca-Cola).
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I found that in Germany, Pepsi is too sweet, so I preferred Coca-Cola
or, when available, German Sinalco (slightly lemony); in Japan,
Coca-Cola is too sweet, in Quebec, Pepsi sometimes seems diluted. But
overall, the differences are marginal.
| Quote: | I had a Pepsi once in Florida ($0.30 for a can in a Pepsi machine at the
supermarket, as opposed to ~$1 here)
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The prices for single cans, as well as small bottles in Quebec are
ridiculous, it's just money-making. Lack of competition.
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People are more likely to change their religion
than change their writing system.
-- Charles Hockett, 1952 |
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HLA
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:11 am
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Marko Jotic wrote:
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Ben Mercier wrote:
"retrosorter" <hrichler@sympatico.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
The epithet "pepsi" or "pepsi mae west" has for a long time been
applied to French Canadians, by English- Canadians because of their
supposed preference for Pepsi over Coke and for liking the chocolate
bar called Mae West. Does anyone know when this term originated and
whether it still is considered insulting? The reason I ask is because a
couple of daysd a group of Quebecois youths referring to each other as
"pepsis" in a light-hearted manner.
It's spelled "May West" and it's not a chocolate bar, it's a small cake:
http://img272.echo.cx/img272/8606/maywest3fq.jpg
As for being called Pepsi, it's not considered "insulting"...mainly because
it's not used in Quebec at all and very few quebecers know about this
story...the "victim" most likely wouldn't give a shit and give a weird look
at the offender.
Ben
yes, it used to be insulting like "canuck" was until we had the "Crazy
Canucks" ski team
Canuck was never derogatoty. It was used durinng WWII as a promotional |
thing. Even had Johnny Canuck comics.
"Johnny Canuck, a Captain in the Allied air forces, is Canada's answer
to Nazi oppression, operating like a freelance agent. He is also
referred to as "Canada's super hero." " |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:52 pm
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HLA filted:
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Marko Jotic wrote:
yes, it used to be insulting like "canuck" was until we had the "Crazy
Canucks" ski team
Canuck was never derogatoty. It was used durinng WWII as a promotional
thing. Even had Johnny Canuck comics.
"Johnny Canuck, a Captain in the Allied air forces, is Canada's answer
to Nazi oppression, operating like a freelance agent. He is also
referred to as "Canada's super hero." "
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In the novel "Love Story" (and perhaps in the film as well), the first time
Oliver and Jenny meet he's recovering from a black eye received at the hands of
a hockey opponent that he's called "a fucking Canuck"...granted, we're talking
about hockey players here, but a remark that would trigger such a response would
still have to come under the heading of derogation....r |
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