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Phil C.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:58 pm
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New editions of dictionaries tend to be accompanied by a news handout
listing lots of colourful new words that are claimed to have entered
the language This gets lots of free publicity. The new Collins seems
to have taken the art to the extreme - e.g.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4074760.stm
A search on Google news for Collins-Dictionary produces many more
reports with more of the "new words". It's something to do with our
vibrant cuture, apparently. Beyond the obvious ones such as chav and
asbo, how many of these words can actually claim to be part of the
language now - let alone in six months time? I've never heard of most
of them.
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Phil C.
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John Hall
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:52 pm
Post subject: Re: New words |
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In article <shhga15hhj05bbupsef6o0qvn24lfh2mp4@4ax.com>,
Phil C. <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> writes:
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A search on Google news for Collins-Dictionary produces many more
reports with more of the "new words". It's something to do with our
vibrant cuture, apparently. Beyond the obvious ones such as chav and
asbo, how many of these words can actually claim to be part of the
language now - let alone in six months time? I've never heard of most
of them.
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I've nevee heard of "asbo". What does it mean?
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John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971) |
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John of Aix
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:09 pm
Post subject: Re: New words |
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Phil C. wrote:
| Quote: | New editions of dictionaries tend to be accompanied by a news handout
listing lots of colourful new words that are claimed to have entered
the language This gets lots of free publicity. The new Collins seems
to have taken the art to the extreme - e.g.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4074760.stm
A search on Google news for Collins-Dictionary produces many more
reports with more of the "new words". It's something to do with our
vibrant cuture, apparently. Beyond the obvious ones such as chav and
asbo, how many of these words can actually claim to be part of the
language now - let alone in six months time? I've never heard of most
of them.
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Welll I had heard of the majority of them covered in the news reports
even though I live in a foreign country but I agree, lots of them will
be transitory. But does it matter? When dictionaries took decades to
compile, mistakes or changes of meaning over time were not easy to
rectify, whereas nowadays publishing is far more lively and the computer
is a wonderful tool for treating words, be it only in their sorting. One
can include and exclude words in a much more reactive way therefore.
And, of course, even if the word 'chav' has disappeared next year, it is
nevertheless necessary to know it if ever there was a need in the future
to study documents of our time.
Perhaps there is a need for a philologic purgatory section in
dictionaries, where new words must languish until time proves their
viability and they can accede to the glories of the main pages and
become Real Words.
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Phil C.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:05 am
Post subject: Re: New words |
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:52:02 +0100, John Hall
<nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <shhga15hhj05bbupsef6o0qvn24lfh2mp4@4ax.com>,
Phil C. <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> writes:
snip
A search on Google news for Collins-Dictionary produces many more
reports with more of the "new words". It's something to do with our
vibrant cuture, apparently. Beyond the obvious ones such as chav and
asbo, how many of these words can actually claim to be part of the
language now - let alone in six months time? I've never heard of most
of them.
I've nevee heard of "asbo". What does it mean?
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Antisocial Behaviour Order. It's used to put geographical restrictions
on chavs in hoodies and suchlike. As far as I know it hasn't yet been
applied to retrosexuals committing crimes against fashion in town
centres. Or perhaps they just haven't caught me yet.
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Matti Lamprhey
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:01 am
Post subject: Re: New words |
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"Phil C." <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> wrote...
| Quote: | John Hall <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
Phil C. <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> writes:
snip
A search on Google news for Collins-Dictionary produces many more
reports with more of the "new words". It's something to do with our
vibrant cuture, apparently. Beyond the obvious ones such as chav and
asbo, how many of these words can actually claim to be part of the
language now - let alone in six months time? I've never heard of
most of them.
I've nevee heard of "asbo". What does it mean?
Antisocial Behaviour Order. It's used to put geographical restrictions
on chavs in hoodies and suchlike. As far as I know it hasn't yet been
applied to retrosexuals committing crimes against fashion in town
centres. Or perhaps they just haven't caught me yet.
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Apparently the Gubbmint is now proposing to extend the concept to bad
behaviour triggered by alcohol misuse; the LibDem MP Lembit Öpik today
coined "Boozebos" for these.
Matti |
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John Hall
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:17 am
Post subject: Re: New words |
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In article <3grlggFdu2uqU2@individual.net>,
Matti Lamprhey <matti@official-totally-reversed.com> writes:
| Quote: | "Phil C." <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> wrote...
John Hall <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I've nevee heard of "asbo". What does it mean?
Antisocial Behaviour Order. It's used to put geographical restrictions
on chavs in hoodies and suchlike. As far as I know it hasn't yet been
applied to retrosexuals committing crimes against fashion in town
centres. Or perhaps they just haven't caught me yet.
Apparently the Gubbmint is now proposing to extend the concept to bad
behaviour triggered by alcohol misuse; the LibDem MP Lembit Öpik today
coined "Boozebos" for these.
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I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
--
John Hall "Do you have cornflakes in America?"
"Well, actually, they're American."
"So what brings you to Britain then if you have cornflakes already?"
Bill Bryson: "Notes from a Small Island" |
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Einde O'Callaghan
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:44 am
Post subject: Re: New words |
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John Hall wrote:
| Quote: | In article <3grlggFdu2uqU2@individual.net>,
Matti Lamprhey <matti@official-totally-reversed.com> writes:
"Phil C." <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> wrote...
John Hall <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I've nevee heard of "asbo". What does it mean?
Antisocial Behaviour Order. It's used to put geographical restrictions
on chavs in hoodies and suchlike. As far as I know it hasn't yet been
applied to retrosexuals committing crimes against fashion in town
centres. Or perhaps they just haven't caught me yet.
Apparently the Gubbmint is now proposing to extend the concept to bad
behaviour triggered by alcohol misuse; the LibDem MP Lembit Öpik today
coined "Boozebos" for these.
I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
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Well I suppose people who eat inordinate quantities of beans could be
given gassy-bos - and I suppose if they smelled like Camping Gaz the
orders could be called Gazebos, at a stretch.
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan |
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Phil C.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:15 am
Post subject: Re: New words |
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:44:45 +0200, Einde O'Callaghan
<einde.ocallaghan@planet-interkom.de> wrote:
| Quote: | John Hall wrote:
I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
Well I suppose people who eat inordinate quantities of beans could be
given gassy-bos - and I suppose if they smelled like Camping Gaz the
orders could be called Gazebos, at a stretch.
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If they sniffed petrol they could be called petrosexuals.
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Robin Bignall
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:11 am
Post subject: Re: New words |
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:17:11 +0100, John Hall
<nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <3grlggFdu2uqU2@individual.net>,
Matti Lamprhey <matti@official-totally-reversed.com> writes:
"Phil C." <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> wrote...
John Hall <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I've nevee heard of "asbo". What does it mean?
Antisocial Behaviour Order. It's used to put geographical restrictions
on chavs in hoodies and suchlike. As far as I know it hasn't yet been
applied to retrosexuals committing crimes against fashion in town
centres. Or perhaps they just haven't caught me yet.
Apparently the Gubbmint is now proposing to extend the concept to bad
behaviour triggered by alcohol misuse; the LibDem MP Lembit Öpik today
coined "Boozebos" for these.
I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
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Peeping Tomery.
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David
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:15 am
Post subject: Re: New words |
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In article <zxod+xFHPKqCFwmp@jhall.demon.co.uk>, John Hall
<nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <3grlggFdu2uqU2@individual.net>, Matti Lamprhey
matti@official-totally-reversed.com> writes:
Apparently the Gubbmint is now proposing to extend the concept to
bad behaviour triggered by alcohol misuse; the LibDem MP Lembit
Öpik today coined "Boozebos" for these.
I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
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Not an acronym but a peeping tom order would fit the bill.
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http://www.grough.freeuk.com/j04.htm -- Scenes Be Leaving |
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:45 am
Post subject: Re: New words |
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:17:11 +0100, John Hall <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk>
wrote:
| Quote: | In article <3grlggFdu2uqU2@individual.net>,
Matti Lamprhey <matti@official-totally-reversed.com> writes:
"Phil C." <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> wrote...
John Hall <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I've nevee heard of "asbo". What does it mean?
Antisocial Behaviour Order. It's used to put geographical restrictions
on chavs in hoodies and suchlike. As far as I know it hasn't yet been
applied to retrosexuals committing crimes against fashion in town
centres. Or perhaps they just haven't caught me yet.
Apparently the Gubbmint is now proposing to extend the concept to bad
behaviour triggered by alcohol misuse; the LibDem MP Lembit Öpik today
coined "Boozebos" for these.
I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
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Peeping Tom might earn one of those.
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Peter Duncanson
UK
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David
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:55 pm
Post subject: Re: New words |
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In article <uihha1l4u1meojie00qigk8lhqg437f75g@4ax.com>, Peter
Duncanson <mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:17:11 +0100, John Hall
nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
Peeping Tom might earn one of those.
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Or even three (so far).
--
http://www.dacha.freeuk.com/colour/3c-0.htm
Speak soft of Monday's Silvern Moon,
Whilst watching silvern Fish glide by; |
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:00 pm
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:55:52 +0100, David <david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <uihha1l4u1meojie00qigk8lhqg437f75g@4ax.com>, Peter
Duncanson <mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:17:11 +0100, John Hall
nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
Peeping Tom might earn one of those.
Or even three (so far).
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Lady Godiva seems to have escaped punishment for her scandalous behaviour --
riding naked on a horse through the streets of Coventry.
Of course if she were to try the same stunt today wearing a hoody to cover
her nakedness she'd be in deep trouble.
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Peter Duncanson
UK
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Phil C.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:15 pm
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:00:28 +0100, Peter Duncanson
<mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:55:52 +0100, David <david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote:
In article <uihha1l4u1meojie00qigk8lhqg437f75g@4ax.com>, Peter
Duncanson <mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:17:11 +0100, John Hall
nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
I'm now trying to think of something that would give "gazebo" as its
acronym.
Peeping Tom might earn one of those.
Or even three (so far).
Lady Godiva seems to have escaped punishment for her scandalous behaviour --
riding naked on a horse through the streets of Coventry.
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I expect they showed mercy in Mercia.
I've seen news reports of any number of "recreations" of Lady Godiva
at one time or another but they never go "the full monty". That
expression actually seems to have disappeared since the film, BTW(?)
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Phil C. |
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Paul Burke
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:39 pm
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Phil C. wrote:
| Quote: | they never go "the full monty". That
expression actually seems to have disappeared since the film, BTW(?)
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What was its origin? I always assumed it was something to do with Monty
Python, and an oblique reference to the trouser snake.
Paul Burke |
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