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Tony Mountifield
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: is 'one' always necessary Reply with quote

In article <20050613.2142.60206snz@dsl.co.uk>,
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk> wrote:
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On Sunday, in article <3h17l9Femdf6U1@individual.net
einde.ocallaghan@planet-interkom.de "Einde O'Callaghan"
wrote:

As an English teacher I can say that according to all the grammar books
I've consulted the correct spelling is "didn't use to". the formk is
analogous to the past tense - indeed it is a type of past tense.

There is also the contraction "usen't"; see Chambers.

The contraction sounds unnatural to me, but I've certainly heard, and
sometimes said, "I used not to do that."

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Tony
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: is 'one' always necessary Reply with quote

In article <3h6fpeFfm6a3U1@individual.net>,
Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallaghan@planet-interkom.de> wrote:
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Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
The correct usage is "you used to go", NOT "you use to go"; I don't know
how Einde confused himself like this.

Einde is a male name? In several years of following this group, I always
thought it was female! Sorry!

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While "You used not to go" is correct, so too is "you didn't use to go".
If necessary I'll quote sources in various reputable grammar books and
textbooks I use in my work.

I don't think Brian is disagreeing with that. In your second example, "use"
is the infinitive, which would be correct.

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The pronunciation of "used to" and the last two words of "didn't use to"
is identical, which may be the source of some of the confusion.

Almost: "yoost to" versus "yoose to", but the difference is subtle and
probably not pronounced by most people.

Cheers
Tony
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Einde O'Callaghan
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: is 'one' always necessary Reply with quote

Tony Mountifield wrote:

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In article <3h6fpeFfm6a3U1@individual.net>,
Einde O'Callaghan <einde.ocallaghan@planet-interkom.de> wrote:

Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:

The correct usage is "you used to go", NOT "you use to go"; I don't know
how Einde confused himself like this.


Einde is a male name? In several years of following this group, I always
thought it was female! Sorry!

Irish male name, old Gaelic spelling.


Regards, Einde O'Callaghan

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