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EJ
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| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:27 pm
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Emory, UC - Santa Barbara, NYU
Major, while undeceived, could eventually be business, male, 3.97 out of
4.25, mostly honors or advanced courses, strong math and sciences, not so
great English, 1300's SAT, athlete but not in college, street savvy so city
is not an issue.
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Hank Murphy
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:26 am
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EJ wrote in message ...
| Quote: | Emory, UC - Santa Barbara, NYU
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I would pick NYU for business, although I don't know if their undergraduate
program is as good as their MBA program, which seems respectable.
However, I think that each of these tends to have localized alumni, so the
first decision is: where do you want to live after you graduate from
college? NYC? Georgia? Southern California? Where do you live now, and
what led you to pick these particular three colleges?
Hank Murphy
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EJ
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:26 pm
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Hank, thanks for reply:
Regarding how we picked these three, we live in Boston but do not want a
local option.
Mon and Dad are moving to Jacksonville and brother goes to Wake Forest so
southern family connections play into Emory. ----- Southern California
would be in any kid's zone of interest. These two schools fit onto golf
interests (single digit handicap). ---- NYU is really a left curve with
the interest being the city attractions and life style, as would connections
in the country's business capital. (I am in the M&A world).
localized alumni - are Emory and NYU that localized?
"Hank Murphy" <hmurphy@earthlink.newt> wrote in message
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| Quote: | EJ wrote in message ...
Emory, UC - Santa Barbara, NYU
I would pick NYU for business, although I don't know if their
undergraduate
program is as good as their MBA program, which seems respectable.
However, I think that each of these tends to have localized alumni, so the
first decision is: where do you want to live after you graduate from
college? NYC? Georgia? Southern California? Where do you live now, and
what led you to pick these particular three colleges?
Hank Murphy
speaking only for myself
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Edward Tang
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:37 pm
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 13:26:16 GMT, "EJ" <ewjames@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Hank, thanks for reply:
Regarding how we picked these three, we live in Boston but do not want a
local option.
Mon and Dad are moving to Jacksonville and brother goes to Wake Forest so
southern family connections play into Emory. ----- Southern California
would be in any kid's zone of interest. These two schools fit onto golf
interests (single digit handicap). ---- NYU is really a left curve with
the interest being the city attractions and life style, as would connections
in the country's business capital. (I am in the M&A world).
localized alumni - are Emory and NYU that localized?
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NYU can definitely be localized - considering it's the largest private
school in the nation and has a few very decent programs some people on
the west coast have literally never heard of the place or think it's a
public school. Seems logical to me that you would want to be where the
action is business wise and come to NYU, but be sure to visit it -
there's really no campus or campus-like community to be had and you
will miss out on many aspects of the traditional college experience.
Of course, you'll have NYC.............
- Ed
NYU BM '01, MPS '03
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http://www.antiexperience.com/edtang/ |
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EJ
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:14 pm
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Ed - you obviously know NYU as an alumni - have you found reorganization an
issue? While lower level business people may have no real knowledge of NYU
on the west Coast, I would have thought that the decision makers have good
understanding of what NYU really offers. Here in Boston I have friends not
familiar with Emory and think Wake Forest is in Illinois, yet knowledgeable
business people know of both intuitions as "good educational" facilities.
We are on tour Thursday at NYU, but from Boston we have been in NYC many
times - just not with a college student's budget.
Your comments are appreciated.
ed
"Edward Tang" <REMOVESPAMebt201@nyu.edu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 13:26:16 GMT, "EJ" <ewjames@comcast.net> wrote:
NYU can definitely be localized - considering it's the largest private
school in the nation and has a few very decent programs some people on
the west coast have literally never heard of the place or think it's a
public school. Seems logical to me that you would want to be where the
action is business wise and come to NYU, but be sure to visit it -
there's really no campus or campus-like community to be had and you
will miss out on many aspects of the traditional college experience.
Of course, you'll have NYC.............
- Ed
NYU BM '01, MPS '03
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http://www.antiexperience.com/edtang/ |
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Edward Tang
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:58 pm
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:14:58 GMT, "EJ" <ewjames@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Ed - you obviously know NYU as an alumni - have you found reorganization an
issue? While lower level business people may have no real knowledge of NYU
on the west Coast, I would have thought that the decision makers have good
understanding of what NYU really offers. Here in Boston I have friends not
familiar with Emory and think Wake Forest is in Illinois, yet knowledgeable
business people know of both intuitions as "good educational" facilities.
We are on tour Thursday at NYU, but from Boston we have been in NYC many
times - just not with a college student's budget.
Your comments are appreciated.
ed
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Hi,
Honestly, I have no idea about what you're asking - I got two niche
artistic degress from Steinhardt and Tisch so I know next to nothing
about what Stern undergrad is all about, sorry, so I was speaking in
much more general terms. NYU is a vastly different university
experience from school to school and has changed drastically in many
regards over the last 5-6 years (as has NYC for that matter).
Hopefully you can get a better feel when you visit and talk to people
there......
- Ed
NYU BM '01, MPS '03
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http://www.antiexperience.com/edtang/ |
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Sally
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:35 am
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"EJ" <ewjames@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<DR01c.20148$ko6.215273@attbi_s02>...
| Quote: | Emory, UC - Santa Barbara, NYU
Major, while undeceived, could eventually be business, male, 3.97 out of
4.25, mostly honors or advanced courses, strong math and sciences, not so
great English, 1300's SAT, athlete but not in college, street savvy so city
is not an issue.
Any thoughts ??
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Santa Barbara is an alcohol school. Great if you want to drink on the
beach and every place else.
Sal |
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Abe Kohen
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:44 am
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I have never understood the value of an undergrad biz degree - but that's
just me.
As for NYU's B-school it has come a long way by spending lots of money to
recruit top-notch professors.
Its Courant Institute (math) is top notch and it has a highly rated
Financial Engineering program.
Baruch College (of the CUNY) is much less expensive for NYC residents and
offers a good alternative to NYU.
Columbia is another alternative with NYU like prices and Ivy League
prestige,
Best of luck,
Abe
"Edward Tang" <REMOVESPAMebt201@nyu.edu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:14:58 GMT, "EJ" <ewjames@comcast.net> wrote:
Ed - you obviously know NYU as an alumni - have you found reorganization
an
issue? While lower level business people may have no real knowledge of
NYU
on the west Coast, I would have thought that the decision makers have
good
understanding of what NYU really offers. Here in Boston I have friends
not
familiar with Emory and think Wake Forest is in Illinois, yet
knowledgeable
business people know of both intuitions as "good educational" facilities.
We are on tour Thursday at NYU, but from Boston we have been in NYC many
times - just not with a college student's budget.
Your comments are appreciated.
ed
Hi,
Honestly, I have no idea about what you're asking - I got two niche
artistic degress from Steinhardt and Tisch so I know next to nothing
about what Stern undergrad is all about, sorry, so I was speaking in
much more general terms. NYU is a vastly different university
experience from school to school and has changed drastically in many
regards over the last 5-6 years (as has NYC for that matter).
Hopefully you can get a better feel when you visit and talk to people
there......
- Ed
NYU BM '01, MPS '03
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http://www.antiexperience.com/edtang/ |
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Abe Kohen
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:45 am
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"Sally" <sunsol@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:2398fe97.0403031435.5bdc3a4c@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | "EJ" <ewjames@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<DR01c.20148$ko6.215273@attbi_s02>...
Emory, UC - Santa Barbara, NYU
Major, while undeceived, could eventually be business, male, 3.97 out of
4.25, mostly honors or advanced courses, strong math and sciences, not
so
great English, 1300's SAT, athlete but not in college, street savvy so
city
is not an issue.
Any thoughts ??
Santa Barbara is an alcohol school. Great if you want to drink on the
beach and every place else.
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Unless I'm mistaken all three are party schools.
Abe |
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Edward Tang
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:27 am
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:45:18 -0500, "Abe Kohen"
<akohen@xenon.stanford.edu> wrote:
| Quote: | Unless I'm mistaken all three are party schools.
Abe
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NYU has a party culture, but from my experience and IMHO it's
extremely decentralized and integrated with the rest of the village -
just like the University in general. I mean, why party in the dorm
when you have the rest of the city to party in? It's the village,
people are drinking and smoking and doing whatever and the school's
right in the middle of it.
- Ed
NYU BM '01, MPS '03
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http://www.antiexperience.com/edtang/ |
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Hank Murphy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:28 pm
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Sally wrote in message <2398fe97.0403031435.5bdc3a4c@posting.google.com>...
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| Quote: | Santa Barbara is an alcohol school. Great if you want to drink on the
beach and every place else.
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Ummm...Sally...things have changed...
Nobel Prizes at UCSB
Walter Kohn, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 1998
Alan Heeger, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 2000
Herbert Kroemer, Nobel Prize in Physics, 2000
Their chemistry/biochemistry department is more than respectable, and the
nanotech program looks to be pretty good. Yeah, there is alcohol consumed
in those parts, but that's no longer the whole story.
Hank Murphy
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Sally
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:23 am
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"Hank Murphy" <hmurphy@earthlink.newt> wrote in message news:<9NB1c.18580$yZ1.1577@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
| Quote: | Sally wrote in message <2398fe97.0403031435.5bdc3a4c@posting.google.com>...
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Santa Barbara is an alcohol school. Great if you want to drink on the
beach and every place else.
Ummm...Sally...things have changed...
Nobel Prizes at UCSB
Walter Kohn, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 1998
Alan Heeger, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 2000
Herbert Kroemer, Nobel Prize in Physics, 2000
Their chemistry/biochemistry department is more than respectable, and the
nanotech program looks to be pretty good. Yeah, there is alcohol consumed
in those parts, but that's no longer the whole story.
Hank Murphy
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Hank,
I really don't see how a few Nobel Prize winners can change an
undergraduate culture soaked in alcohol. Got any more evidence?
Sal
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Sally
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:27 am
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REMOVESPAMebt201@nyu.edu (Edward Tang) wrote in message news:<404693a2.43060577@24.168.128.90>...
| Quote: | On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:45:18 -0500, "Abe Kohen"
akohen@xenon.stanford.edu> wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken all three are party schools.
Abe
NYU has a party culture, but from my experience and IMHO it's
extremely decentralized and integrated with the rest of the village -
just like the University in general. I mean, why party in the dorm
when you have the rest of the city to party in? It's the village,
people are drinking and smoking and doing whatever and the school's
right in the middle of it.
- Ed
NYU BM '01, MPS '03
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Ed,
I hate that euphemism, "party." People drink where there is no party
and party where there is no alcohol. I think people use the term to
imply that it is "only" social drinking so it is okay.
Sal |
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Edward Tang
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:37 am
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On 4 Mar 2004 11:27:40 -0800, sunsol@prodigy.net (Sally) wrote:
| Quote: | Ed,
I hate that euphemism, "party." People drink where there is no party
and party where there is no alcohol. I think people use the term to
imply that it is "only" social drinking so it is okay.
Sal
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Why the combativeness? I wasn't the one who first used the term, nor
do you have to preach to me, I didn't drink a drop until I was well
over 21 and of course i had no problem being social during college
with plenty of like minded individuals. Not to say that it isn't a
problem sometimes and at some places, but you seem utterly determined
to believe the absolute worst regarding the nature of college students
and drinking.
- Ed
NYU BM '01, MPS '03
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http://www.antiexperience.com/edtang/ |
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Annomalous
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:56 am
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Sally wrote:
| Quote: | Santa Barbara is an alcohol school.
Great if you want to drink on the
beach and every place else.
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My son has applied there for the excellent chem program. I am not
going to worry about the partying, but then my son is unusually
impervious to peer interests.
Anne |
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