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Dylan Nicholson
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:15 am
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"Dena Jo" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On 14 Sep 2004, Peter Duncanson posted thus:
Clue: "As a horse Dena Jo is lively"
Solution: "No jade"
What???
I'm not sure I understand it either. I mean the anagram is obvious, the |
"jade horse" connection is obvious, but where does the 'no' come in?
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John Dean
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:15 am
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david56 wrote:
| Quote: | John Dean typed thus:
Dena Jo wrote:
On 13 Sep 2004, Harvey Van Sickle posted thus:
It had to happen: my reliable free, dailiy cryptic crossword from
the Globe and Mail has turned subscription.
What's a cryptic crossword?
Angry element of speech goes with grotto in charge of prize puzzle?
(7,10)
"cryptic crossword"
Nope, that can't be it. Wrong number of letters.
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John Dean
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Dylan Nicholson
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:24 am
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"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | david56 wrote:
John Dean typed thus:
Dena Jo wrote:
What's a cryptic crossword?
Angry element of speech goes with grotto in charge of prize puzzle?
(7,10)
"cryptic crossword"
Nope, that can't be it. Wrong number of letters.
(7,9)
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I think we can do better though...
Puzzle over the cow Dr Ross fixes after dark.
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Robert Bannister
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:14 am
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Richard Maurer wrote:
So you can work it out in your head without 'cheating' by looking to see
if you've already got some of the letters.
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Rob Bannister |
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meirman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:20 am
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In alt.english.usage on Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:16:03 +1000 "Dylan
Nicholson" <wizofaus@hotmail.com> posted:
| Quote: | "graham" <stratman@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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On 13 Sep 2004, graham wrote
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What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the cleverest.
Graham
frafryrffarff (btw does anyone know if OE has a rot13 tool you can use while
composing?)
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Agent has that, and for reading too. Viva la Agent.
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I don't believe anyone could get that without some of the other letters.
How about
________ (8)
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s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.
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Chicago, 6 years
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Dylan Nicholson
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:24 am
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"meirman" <meirman@invalid.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In alt.english.usage on Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:16:03 +1000 "Dylan
Nicholson" <wizofaus@hotmail.com> posted:
frafryrffarff (btw does anyone know if OE has a rot13 tool you can use
while
composing?)
Agent has that, and for reading too. Viva la Agent.
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OE has it for reading - the online help implies that MS made a deliberate
decision not to allow it for posting because it wasn't really secure or some
crap. At any rate, hardly enough of a reason on its own to change readers
though. I've no doubt there's plenty better than OE, but I can't be fagged
trying out every possibility out there to work out which one I like best.
You can of course just post to news.test (or whatever) then use the
"unscramble" function on the posted message, and copy & paste the result.
But it's easier just to load up a separate tool (webpage, whatever). |
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meirman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:29 am
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In alt.english.usage on 14 Sep 2004 04:07:26 GMT
peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan) posted:
| Quote: | Dena Jo wellfed:
On 13 Sep 2004, Harvey Van Sickle posted thus:
It had to happen: my reliable free, dailiy cryptic crossword from
the Globe and Mail has turned subscription.
What's a cryptic crossword?
The only sort of crossword puzzle worth doing. The simple rule used
to be that broadsheets had cryptic crosswords, and tabloids had
crossword puzzles with straight clues. The lines are probably
blurring now that more and more broadsheets are going tabloid.
(In both shape and content.)
Perhaps you could think of it as the sort of puzzle where the clues
are Herdwick enabled.
I've never figured out why cryptic crosswords seem to be rare in
the USA.
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They're called acrostics or maybe better, double acrostics in the USA.
And they're not that common as it sounds like in the UK but they're
around. I used to read a magazine, I forget which, which had one in
every issue.
| Quote: | Are all the newspaper publishers scared of appearing
to appeal to the intelligent?
(OK, I know about Murdoch. But apart from him.)
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It's precedes him.
s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.
Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis, 7 years
Chicago, 6 years
Brooklyn NY 12 years
Baltimore 20 years |
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Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo G
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:34 am
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Dena Jo wrote:
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On 14 Sep 2004, Sara Lorimer posted thus:
Bill Bonde wrote:
Peter Duncanson wrote:
Clue: "As a horse Dena Jo is lively"
Solution: "No jade"
There must be a limited number of possible games you can play
else how could the cryptic clue lead unambiguously to an answer?
Is there a clue that this is an anagram?
Ah, that one I know: "is lively" implies an anagram.
But what does the horse have to do with it?
A jade is an old tired horse. |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:21 am
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:56:47 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
<harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 14 Sep 2004, Dena Jo wrote
On 13 Sep 2004, Harvey Van Sickle posted thus:
It had to happen: my reliable free, dailiy cryptic crossword from
the Globe and Mail has turned subscription.
What's a cryptic crossword?
Seriously? (I'd have assumed you knew from your stay in England.)
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I assumed the same, which was why I provided her a silly answer
earlier. Any literate newspaper-reading person visiting the British
Isles couldn't have missed seeing a few of them, so I naturally
assumed Dena didn't. That she must have had an off-moment when asking
the question is the only plausible explanation I can come up with. |
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meirman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:44 am
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In alt.english.usage on Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:24:35 +1000 "Dylan
Nicholson" <wizofaus@hotmail.com> posted:
| Quote: | "meirman" <meirman@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:926fk0lv55r3k44e03pngr57bovidqigs3@4ax.com...
In alt.english.usage on Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:16:03 +1000 "Dylan
Nicholson" <wizofaus@hotmail.com> posted:
frafryrffarff (btw does anyone know if OE has a rot13 tool you can use
while
composing?)
Agent has that, and for reading too. Viva la Agent.
OE has it for reading - the online help implies that MS made a deliberate
decision not to allow it for posting because it wasn't really secure or some
crap.
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No kidding. How many people are going to think that rotating the
letters 13 characters is really secure? And they could put up a
warning when you used it if they really thought that. You know, with
a box that says, Don't displace this warning again.
I wonder what their real reason was.
| Quote: | At any rate, hardly enough of a reason on its own to change readers
though.
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Agreed.
s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.
Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis, 7 years
Chicago, 6 years
Brooklyn NY 12 years
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Dena Jo
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:54 am
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On 14 Sep 2004, Charles Riggs posted thus:
| Quote: | I assumed the same, which was why I provided her a silly answer
earlier. Any literate newspaper-reading person visiting the
British Isles couldn't have missed seeing a few of them, so I
naturally assumed Dena didn't. That she must have had an
off-moment when asking the question is the only plausible
explanation I can come up with.
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You give me too much credit, Charles. The year I lived in England,
I was a *college* student. I didn't spend much time reading
newspapers, other than an occasional glance at the Sun. I focused
on more important things, like learning to hold my liquor, and I
think I did admirably well in that regard too. I started out the
academic year nursing half a lager and ended the academic year able
to knock back several pints.
--
Dena Jo
<Hiccup>
Email goes to denajo2 at the dot com variation of the Yahoo domain.
Plonk the bastards:
http://www.schmuckwithanunderwood.com/trolls.html |
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graham
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:09 am
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"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On 14 Sep 2004, Mike Barnes wrote
In alt.usage.english, Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
For cleverness, I like "ofofofofofofofofofof (10)";
bsgragvzrf?
Yup; I've always been fond of that one.
for a giggle, I
like "Listen closely for a sexual perversion (4,2,4,4)".
pbpx hc lbhe rnef? 
or did you mean 5,2,4,4?
Yeah, I meant the Joe Orton version... In my defence, m'lud, I
mentioned it in an earlier post and got the numbers right. ;)
Another favourite: "hijklmno" (5) |
An easy but amusing one. I'm constantly reminded of it these days as my
soon to be 2yr old grand-daughter has learned the alphabet song and she
sings it when I take her out.
When John Betjeman's autobiography came out, the title (Summoned by bells)
soon appeared as a clue in the Times xword. (3,4).
Graham |
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meirman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:36 am
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In alt.english.usage on Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:46:03 GMT Harvey Van
Sickle <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> posted:
| Quote: | ... dailiy cryptic crossword from the Globe and Mail
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BTW, the regular crossword that appears in the paper edition of the
Baltimore Sun has gotten harder on Fridays and maybe Thursdays. I
can't tell you how or it won't have the impact it would otherwise, but
it is in addition to using obscure clues. I don't know what other
papers have made these changes, but most of the crossword guys are
syndicated. I'm sure this one is, but I don't know his name.
The computer version of the crossword doesn't appear in the paper
edition, at least didn't the one time I looked.
Oh, and the ones you are talking about might be called
double-crostics, in addition to acrostics and double acrostics. I
don't think all the answers are anagrams. Are you (plural) saying
that in the UK they are?
s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.
Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis, 7 years
Chicago, 6 years
Brooklyn NY 12 years
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Dylan Nicholson
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:40 am
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"meirman" <meirman@invalid.com> wrote in message
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Oh, and the ones you are talking about might be called
double-crostics, in addition to acrostics and double acrostics. I
don't think all the answers are anagrams. Are you (plural) saying
that in the UK they are?
A hangman saw art? |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:26 pm
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On 15 Sep 2004 02:54:19 GMT, Dena Jo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On 14 Sep 2004, Charles Riggs posted thus:
I assumed the same, which was why I provided her a silly answer
earlier. Any literate newspaper-reading person visiting the
British Isles couldn't have missed seeing a few of them, so I
naturally assumed Dena didn't. That she must have had an
off-moment when asking the question is the only plausible
explanation I can come up with.
You give me too much credit, Charles. The year I lived in England,
I was a *college* student. I didn't spend much time reading
newspapers, other than an occasional glance at the Sun. I focused
on more important things, like learning to hold my liquor, and I
think I did admirably well in that regard too. I started out the
academic year nursing half a lager and ended the academic year able
to knock back several pints.
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Alls I can say, Dena, is you should have come to Ireland instead. Here
you could have studied at Trinity or UCD, sharpened your pub skills
with Guinness, not yucky lager, with the Dublin boys, and honed up on
cryptic crossword puzzles, all more-or-less at the same time. Reading
at least one daily newspaper is near to being a requirement for
residency here, so you wouldn't have been left in the dark. Plus, and
here comes the big one, you might have met me. |
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