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graham
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:11 pm
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"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On 13 Sep 2004, graham wrote
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What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the cleverest.
Graham
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M. J. Powell
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:51 pm
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In message <F_C1d.428039$gE.351712@pd7tw3no>, graham <stratman@shaw.ca>
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"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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On 13 Sep 2004, graham wrote
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What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the cleverest.
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How about 'Furry sea-animal'. (5,3)
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:08 pm
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On 14 Sep 2004, graham wrote
| Quote: | "Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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On 13 Sep 2004, graham wrote
What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the
cleverest. Graham
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I always liked that one -- I first met it a while back, so I won't
spoil it for others by giving the answer.
For cleverness, I like "ofofofofofofofofofof (10)"; for a giggle, I
like "Listen closely for a sexual perversion (4,2,4,4)".
--
Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 22 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van)
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:38 pm
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"Sean O'Leathlobhair" <jwlawler@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Harvey Van Sickle <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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It had to happen: my reliable free, dailiy cryptic crossword from the
Globe and Mail has turned subscription.
["Alas", said this bloody cheap bastard who liked free crosswords.]
I was about to recommend the Guardian (UK national paper) crossword.
Here's their home page: http://www.guardian.co.uk/ The crossword link
is in the left hand column about two thirds of the way down.
I do the crossword in the real paper from time to time and
occasionally on-line. Unfortunately, since I last looked at the
website, it has also ceased to be free. They now want £25 a year
which seems too much to me.
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Which reminds me. Any takers for my "Not the SDC Punter's Revenge" RBQ-style
cryptic? (It seems somehow to have got split into two almost identical
threads by Google.)
Mike. |
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Sara Lorimer
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:36 pm
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graham wrote:
| Quote: | What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the cleverest.
Graham
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'Splain, please.
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SML |
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:39 pm
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On 14 Sep 2004, Sara Lorimer wrote
| Quote: | graham wrote:
What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the
cleverest. Graham
'Splain, please.
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I will! I will!
"Senselessness": "sense", less the letters "ness"; that leaves "e".
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Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 22 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van) |
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Sara Lorimer
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:42 pm
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Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
| Quote: | On 14 Sep 2004, Sara Lorimer wrote
graham wrote:
What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the
cleverest. Graham
'Splain, please.
I will! I will!
"Senselessness": "sense", less the letters "ness"; that leaves "e".
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Oooh. That's a good one.
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Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo G
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:20 am
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Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
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On 14 Sep 2004, Sara Lorimer wrote
graham wrote:
What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the
cleverest. Graham
'Splain, please.
I will! I will!
"Senselessness": "sense", less the letters "ness"; that leaves "e".
What makes you want to think about the word 'senselessness' in the first |
place? This is like "Makes a woman more beautiful" and the answer is
"distance". How about the clue is 'e' and the answer is "Fonzarelli"?
Fonzarelli is Italian and if you say 'e' in Italian, you sound like what
the Fonz used to say. |
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Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo G
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:31 am
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Peter Duncanson wrote:
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On 14 Sep 2004 02:13:08 GMT, Dena Jo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On 13 Sep 2004, Harvey Van Sickle posted thus:
It had to happen: my reliable free, dailiy cryptic crossword from
the Globe and Mail has turned subscription.
What's a cryptic crossword?
There is a description at
http://www.home.gil.com.au/~vburton/cryptics/cryptics.htm
A cryptic clue embodies two parts. One gives the meaning of the solution.
The other shows how to derive the solution. Sometimes these two parts
overlap. Rarely they totally overlap.
It is for the solver of the clue to figure out which part of the clue is
which part.
A properly formed cryptic clue leads unambiguously to the correct solution.
I'm not a crossword compiler so the following clue could doubtless be
better:
Clue: "As a horse Dena Jo is lively"
Solution: "No jade"
There must be a limited number of possible games you can play else how |
could the cryptic clue lead unambiguously to an answer? Is there a clue
that this is an anagram? Is there a clue as to which words are involved
in the anagram? Can the words involved in the anagram be separated? Do
all the words have to be relevant? |
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Sara Lorimer
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:15 am
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Bill Bonde wrote:
| Quote: | Peter Duncanson wrote:
Clue: "As a horse Dena Jo is lively"
Solution: "No jade"
There must be a limited number of possible games you can play else how
could the cryptic clue lead unambiguously to an answer? Is there a clue
that this is an anagram?
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Ah, that one I know: "is lively" implies an anagram.
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:16 am
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On 14 Sep 2004, Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo Gloria'' ) wrote
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| Quote: | There must be a limited number of possible games you can play else
how could the cryptic clue lead unambiguously to an answer?
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I think that's true: one learns to zero in on the conventions.
| Quote: | Is there a clue that this is an anagram?
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Yes: "lively". (Implying that the letters are moving about.)
| Quote: | Is there a clue as to which words are involved in the anagram?
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They're immediately next to "lively".
| Quote: | Can the words involved in the anagram be separated?
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Not in a "fair" crossword, they can't. These sorts of rules of "fair
play" were (I think) established by a setter called Ximenes, and
crosswords which follow these ground rules are "Ximenean".
| Quote: | Do all the words have to be relevant?
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Very much so. If a clue says "letters XYZ surrounded by a lake", the
"surrounding" letters will be "a-l-a-k-e". If the solution doesn't
include the first "a", however, the clue would have to be "letters XYZ
surrounded by lake".
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Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 22 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van) |
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MC
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:40 am
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In article <1gk3zok.8ftzzyy7m2woN%que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com>,
que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com (Sara Lorimer) wrote:
| Quote: | Peter Duncanson wrote:
Clue: "As a horse Dena Jo is lively"
Solution: "No jade"
There must be a limited number of possible games you can play else how
could the cryptic clue lead unambiguously to an answer? Is there a clue
that this is an anagram?
Ah, that one I know: "is lively" implies an anagram.
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Dena Jo is lively = Sell a joy divine
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All writers are vain, selfish and lazy,
and at the very bottom of their motives
lies a mystery.--George Orwell
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Paul Wolff
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:03 am
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In message <Xns956450D7BAF89whhvans@62.253.162.206>, Harvey Van Sickle
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(I always liked the clue which supposedly got past the crossword editor
of The Times in the late 1960s -- probably apochryphal: "Listen closely
for a sexual perversion (5,2,4,4)".)
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Joe Orton.
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Paul
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Paul Wolff
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:09 am
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In message <2qohjjF12f2stU1@uni-berlin.de>, Mike Lyle
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> writes
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Which reminds me. Any takers for my "Not the SDC Punter's Revenge"
RBQ-style cryptic? (It seems somehow to have got split into two almost
identical threads by Google.)
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My newsreader threads by references, not subject lines, and quotes the
original subject when displaying the thread tree, so I can't even find
it now ... and what *is* RBQ?
--
Paul
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Paul Wolff
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:15 am
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In message <Xns9564A44371B28whhvans@62.253.162.203>, Harvey Van Sickle
<harvey.news@ntlworld.com> writes
| Quote: | On 14 Sep 2004, graham wrote
"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95644D56FD0ACwhhvans@62.253.162.205...
On 13 Sep 2004, graham wrote
What's your favourite clue? I think "E" (13) must be one of the
cleverest. Graham
I always liked that one -- I first met it a while back, so I won't
spoil it for others by giving the answer.
For cleverness, I like "ofofofofofofofofofof (10)";
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Frequently?
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like "Listen closely for a sexual perversion (4,2,4,4)".
The first word is 5 letters. |
For another favourite: Gegs (9,4). Again, not a two-parter in the
classic mould.
--
Paul
In bocca al Lupo! |
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