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Stewart Gordon
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 4:57 pm
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Martin Ambuhl wrote:
| Quote: | Stewart Gordon wrote:
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Anyone who can call the _Oxford English Dictionary_ and the
_Shorter Oxford English Dictionary_ "obscure" has another think/thing
coming.
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What's it shorter than, exactly? It would make OneLook's collection
seem very short indeed.
| Quote: | I bet these obscure dictionaries list "manise" and/or "manize" as well?
The "obscure" SOED5 (what planet are you from?) has neither.
The "obscure" OED2 (what planet are you from?) has neither.
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I guess one where no sequel to either OED had been created.
| Quote: | Are you a troll, stupid, or just ignorant?
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No. The psychic powers just weren't working at the time.
Stewart.
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:37 pm
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Stewart Gordon wrote:
| Quote: | Martin Ambuhl wrote:
Stewart Gordon wrote:
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Anyone who can call the _Oxford English Dictionary_ and the
_Shorter Oxford English Dictionary_ "obscure" has another
think/thing
coming.
What's it shorter than, exactly? It would make OneLook's
collection
seem very short indeed.
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Assuming you're not teasing (if you are, I blush and mumble
sheepishly), it's shorter than the OED: in theory, the same lexicon,
but briefer examples. Enough for all but the fussiest (i.e.,
inadequate for AUE jousting).
The New SOD really is a new book, not to be confused with the old
SOD; but I'm ashamed to say I haven't used it.
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Mike. |
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CDB
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:04 pm
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"Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d5nf4j$1qm$1@sun-cc204.lut.ac.uk...
| Quote: | CDB wrote:
"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
news:d5dgc7$cmo$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
Stewart Gordon wrote:
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I bet these obscure dictionaries list "manise" and/or "manize" as
well?
???????????????
Opposite of "demanize"? CDB
I'm afraid that word's even loster on me.
Stewart.
It means "ascribe all manner of bad qualities to someone, possibly |
falsely, possibly with the intention of turning him into a
scrapegoat", mon. CDB Did I mention, duty is my lobster? |
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TsuiDF
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 9:19 pm
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To get back to the OP, there is a lovely short story at
http://beebo.org/smackerels/how-i-met-my-wife.html
using many common words in their uncommon (or nonexistent) forms. It's
an interesting exercise to read it and see just how many times you have
to stop to see if you actually know what state of mind is being
described.
Aside from being just darned good fun.
Stephanie
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 12:33 am
Post subject: fixing Google quotes [WAS: Nonsensible and sensical...] |
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TsuiDF <stephanie.mitchell@chello.be> wrote:
| Quote: | To get back to the OP, there is a lovely short story at
http://beebo.org/smackerels/how-i-met-my-wife.html
using many common words in their uncommon (or nonexistent) forms. It's
an interesting exercise to read it and see just how many times you have
to stop to see if you actually know what state of mind is being
described.
Aside from being just darned good fun.
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Stephanie, unfortunately your posts are showing up without any quoted
material, which appears to be a fault of the latest Google Groups. Last
week Bob Lieblich and I worked out a possible notice to add to the Intro
docs in hopes of solving this problem:
A recent change at Google Groups is causing its
users to create messages that don't quote any
previous material at all, which is baffling to our
readers. If you're going to use the Google interface to reply to
Usenet posts, please perform this extra step:
(1) Click "show options" next to the poster's name, and
(2) Click "Reply" in the line:
Reply|Reply to Author|Forward|Print|Individual Message
This will put quotations and attributions in
your message, just as other newsreader programs do.
I welcome feedback as to whether this passage works (easy to understand,
leads to right solution).
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 12:55 am
Post subject: Re: fixing Google quotes [WAS: Nonsensible and sensical...] |
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Donna Richoux wrote:
| Quote: | TsuiDF <stephanie.mitchell@chello.be> wrote:
To get back to the OP, there is a lovely short story at
http://beebo.org/smackerels/how-i-met-my-wife.html
using many common words in their uncommon (or nonexistent) forms.
It's an interesting exercise to read it and see just how many
times
you have to stop to see if you actually know what state of mind is
being described.
Aside from being just darned good fun.
Stephanie, unfortunately your posts are showing up without any
quoted
material, which appears to be a fault of the latest Google Groups.
Last week Bob Lieblich and I worked out a possible notice to add to
the Intro docs in hopes of solving this problem:
A recent change at Google Groups is causing its
users to create messages that don't quote any
previous material at all, which is baffling to our
readers. If you're going to use the Google interface to reply
to
Usenet posts, please perform this extra step:
(1) Click "show options" next to the poster's name, and
(2) Click "Reply" in the line:
Reply|Reply to Author|Forward|Print|Individual Message
This will put quotations and attributions in
your message, just as other newsreader programs do.
I welcome feedback as to whether this passage works (easy to
understand, leads to right solution).
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It looks good to me. Maybe add something along the lines of "If you
like, you can cut out irrelevant parts of the quotations and replace
them with [...]; this saves space and often makes a message easier to
understand."
When I tried Gg Beta, <Reply> was one of the "issues" I reported to
them: a fat lot of good that did. They don't actually seem to _mind_
their system's imperfections, which I find strange: a few bucks or a
little time would make it quite good. I smell in-and-out
consultancy -- a method I have learned to hold in low esteem. As low,
in fact, as the esteem in which I hold companies who set up such
projects without proper project managers.
--
Mike. |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 12:56 am
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TsuiDF filted:
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To get back to the OP, there is a lovely short story at
http://beebo.org/smackerels/how-i-met-my-wife.html
using many common words in their uncommon (or nonexistent) forms. It's
an interesting exercise to read it and see just how many times you have
to stop to see if you actually know what state of mind is being
described.
Aside from being just darned good fun.
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It's not far from a mistake to say that I couldn't help but fail to disagree
with you less....r |
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Areff
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:11 am
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TsuiDF wrote:
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Donna Richoux wrote:
,unfortunately your posts are showing up without any quoted
material, which appears to be a fault of the latest Google Groups.
If this was directed to me, I have to say I wasn't trying to quote
anything . . .
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Why not? |
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Don Aitken
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:16 am
Post subject: Re: fixing Google quotes [WAS: Nonsensible and sensical...] |
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On Mon, 9 May 2005 19:55:41 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Donna Richoux wrote:
TsuiDF <stephanie.mitchell@chello.be> wrote:
To get back to the OP, there is a lovely short story at
http://beebo.org/smackerels/how-i-met-my-wife.html
using many common words in their uncommon (or nonexistent) forms.
It's an interesting exercise to read it and see just how many
times
you have to stop to see if you actually know what state of mind is
being described.
Aside from being just darned good fun.
Stephanie, unfortunately your posts are showing up without any
quoted
material, which appears to be a fault of the latest Google Groups.
Last week Bob Lieblich and I worked out a possible notice to add to
the Intro docs in hopes of solving this problem:
A recent change at Google Groups is causing its
users to create messages that don't quote any
previous material at all, which is baffling to our
readers. If you're going to use the Google interface to reply
to
Usenet posts, please perform this extra step:
(1) Click "show options" next to the poster's name, and
(2) Click "Reply" in the line:
Reply|Reply to Author|Forward|Print|Individual Message
This will put quotations and attributions in
your message, just as other newsreader programs do.
I welcome feedback as to whether this passage works (easy to
understand, leads to right solution).
It looks good to me. Maybe add something along the lines of "If you
like, you can cut out irrelevant parts of the quotations and replace
them with [...]; this saves space and often makes a message easier to
understand."
When I tried Gg Beta, <Reply> was one of the "issues" I reported to
them: a fat lot of good that did. They don't actually seem to _mind_
their system's imperfections, which I find strange: a few bucks or a
little time would make it quite good. I smell in-and-out
consultancy -- a method I have learned to hold in low esteem. As low,
in fact, as the esteem in which I hold companies who set up such
projects without proper project managers.
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The trouble with any instructions is that Google keep changing things.
According to Message-ID: <3e6l8kF1epj7U1@individual.net> you can still
get the old interface from most of the Google aliases *except*
google.com and google.co.uk - you can also get an English language
version from any of them, like this -
http://www.google.es/grphp?hl=en (Spain)
http://www.google.co.il/grphp?hl=en (Israel)
http://www.google.pl/grphp?hl=en (Poland)
My understanding is that the alias you use affects only the interface,
and not which machine you get connected to - that is always the
nearest one with spare capacity (and the ads are also tailored to your
actual location).
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com" |
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TsuiDF
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 5:16 am
Post subject: Re: fixing Google quotes [WAS: Nonsensible and sensical...] |
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Donna Richoux wrote:
,unfortunately your posts are showing up without any quoted
| Quote: | material, which appears to be a fault of the latest Google Groups.
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If this was directed to me, I have to say I wasn't trying to quote
anything . . .
if not, I'll be off and check in later,
'night,
Stephanie
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 5:52 am
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TsuiDF <stephanie.mitchell@chello.be> wrote:
| Quote: | Donna Richoux wrote:
,unfortunately your posts are showing up without any quoted
material, which appears to be a fault of the latest Google Groups.
If this was directed to me, I have to say I wasn't trying to quote
anything . . .
if not, I'll be off and check in later,
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Really? I'm sorry if I jumped to any false conclusions, but this was the
third post of yours I opened in an hour that did not quote earlier
posts. The others were
Re: Get off your dogs
Re: Duty Travel
Since this one begins "To get back to the OP," it really would have been
convenient if you had reminded us what the "original post" was. Thinking
about it now, I can see that if the discussion had gone far afield, then
indeed there'd be nothing in the prevous message to quote.
But what I figured earlier was that since you are using Google Groups,
that you had fallen victim to the same problem that's been popping up
for a couple of weeks, where the previous message shows on the screen of
the person composing the message but is not included *in* their message.
Well, now we know you have the tools so if you don't quote something,
it's on purpose.
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Stewart Gordon
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 3:54 pm
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TsuiDF wrote:
It just shows how derstandable some writings can be. :-)
Stewart.
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:16 pm
Post subject: Re: fixing Google quotes [WAS: Nonsensible and sensical...] |
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Donna Richoux wrote:
[ ... ]
| Quote: | Last
week Bob Lieblich and I worked out a possible notice to add to the
Intro
docs in hopes of solving this problem:
A recent change at Google Groups is causing its
users to create messages that don't quote any
previous material at all, which is baffling to our
readers. If you're going to use the Google interface to reply to
Usenet posts, please perform this extra step:
(1) Click "show options" next to the poster's name, and
(2) Click "Reply" in the line:
Reply|Reply to Author|Forward|Print|Individual Message
This will put quotations and attributions in
your message, just as other newsreader programs do.
I welcome feedback as to whether this passage works (easy to
understand,
leads to right solution).
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Life has its little ironies, and I'm having to use Google myself for a
brief while, so I hope I've learned my own lesson.
Vote for this, people, please, and be sure to give Donna the credit.
The precision of the language is her doing -- and I stole the basic
idea from a couple of other participants who preceded me.
--
Liebs |
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