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Stuart Chapman
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:13 pm
Post subject: Re: scrubs (?) |
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Skitt wrote:
| Quote: | Stuart Chapman wrote:
Skitt wrote:
Lars Eighner wrote:
Tony Cooper broadcast:
I don't know what "light indigo" is. Can you find it at:
http://www.colorschemer.com/online.html
It is the color of slightly faded blue jeans - which were at one
time dyed with indigo. I can't pick it out of the charts, but
#8800FF RBG is close - not red enough to be purple, but not a
shade of pure blue. Bluish magenta? I understand many people
are uncertain what color Newton meant by "indigo," too.
Maybe you have to be in a certain mood.
Kind of Blue ??
No, Mood Indigo. You want me to hum a few bars?
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Don't need to....
You ain't been blue, no, no, no.
You ain't been blue,
Till you've had that mood indigo.
That feelin' goes stealin' down to my shoes
While I sit and sigh, Go 'long blues.
Always get that mood indigo,
Since my baby said goodbye.
In the evenin' when lights are low,
I'm so lonesome I could cry.
Cause there's nobody who cares about me,
I'm just a soul who's bluer than blue can be.
When I get that mood indigo,
I could lay me down and die. |
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Evan Kirshenbaum
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:13 pm
Post subject: Re: scrubs (?) |
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Robert Lieblich <Robert.Lieblich@Verizon.net> writes:
| Quote: | "Scrubs" is also American slang (somewhat dated) for the members of
a team who rarely get to play and usually sit at the far end of the
bench.
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Is it really dated? I hadn't noticed. It's certainly in my active
vocabulary. Scrubs tend to get to play during "garbage time".
Anybody know the etymology? I'd guess it's because they "scrub the
bench" with their butts (cf, "benchwarmers"), but I could well be
wrong.
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 12:23 am
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Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Robert Lieblich <Robert.Lieblich@Verizon.net> writes:
"Scrubs" is also American slang (somewhat dated) for the members of
a team who rarely get to play and usually sit at the far end of the
bench.
Is it really dated? I hadn't noticed. It's certainly in my active
vocabulary. Scrubs tend to get to play during "garbage time".
Anybody know the etymology? I'd guess it's because they "scrub the
bench" with their butts (cf, "benchwarmers"), but I could well be
wrong.
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My guess is the verb form came first -- to be scrubbed from the team.
"Eliminated." Then I would guess that came from some earlier sport, such
as a horse being scrubbed from a race (perhaps literally scrubbed off
the chalkboard?)
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:20 am
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Donna Richoux wrote:
| Quote: | Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
Robert Lieblich <Robert.Lieblich@Verizon.net> writes:
"Scrubs" is also American slang (somewhat dated) for the members
of
a team who rarely get to play and usually sit at the far end of
the
bench.
Is it really dated? I hadn't noticed. It's certainly in my
active
vocabulary. Scrubs tend to get to play during "garbage time".
Anybody know the etymology? I'd guess it's because they "scrub
the
bench" with their butts (cf, "benchwarmers"), but I could well be
wrong.
My guess is the verb form came first -- to be scrubbed from the
team.
"Eliminated." Then I would guess that came from some earlier sport,
such as a horse being scrubbed from a race (perhaps literally
scrubbed off the chalkboard?)
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"Scratched", too. "Sorry! Scrub that!" But my Austro-Anglic ear also
hears "scrubber" moving from "outsider" to "prostitute". "That horse
is a scrubber"..."She's a scrubber."
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Mike. |
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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 4:23 am
Post subject: Re: scrubs (?) |
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Stuart Chapman wrote:
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Skitt wrote:
Stuart Chapman wrote:
Skitt wrote:
Lars Eighner wrote:
Tony Cooper broadcast:
I don't know what "light indigo" is. Can you find it at:
http://www.colorschemer.com/online.html
It is the color of slightly faded blue jeans - which were at one
time dyed with indigo. I can't pick it out of the charts, but
#8800FF RBG is close - not red enough to be purple, but not a
shade of pure blue. Bluish magenta? I understand many people
are uncertain what color Newton meant by "indigo," too.
Maybe you have to be in a certain mood.
Kind of Blue ??
No, Mood Indigo. You want me to hum a few bars?
Don't need to....
You ain't been blue, no, no, no.
You ain't been blue,
Till you've had that mood indigo.
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Strangely, no STS was triggered (at least for me) by this post. I
think the melody is too sophisticated for that.
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Liebs |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 4:43 am
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Mike Lyle <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Donna Richoux wrote:
Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
Robert Lieblich <Robert.Lieblich@Verizon.net> writes:
"Scrubs" is also American slang (somewhat dated) for the members
of
a team who rarely get to play and usually sit at the far end of
the
bench.
Is it really dated? I hadn't noticed. It's certainly in my
active
vocabulary. Scrubs tend to get to play during "garbage time".
Anybody know the etymology? I'd guess it's because they "scrub
the
bench" with their butts (cf, "benchwarmers"), but I could well be
wrong.
My guess is the verb form came first -- to be scrubbed from the
team.
"Eliminated." Then I would guess that came from some earlier sport,
such as a horse being scrubbed from a race (perhaps literally
scrubbed off the chalkboard?)
"Scratched", too. "Sorry! Scrub that!" But my Austro-Anglic ear also
hears "scrubber" moving from "outsider" to "prostitute". "That horse
is a scrubber"..."She's a scrubber."
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I just checked Cassell's Dictionary of Slang. As usual, there are
various meanings, and the "prostitute" one is old, 18c+, related to the
much newer "scrubber" (a promiscuous woman), 1950s.
They say the verb "scrub" meaning "to eliminate" is only known from
1940s, US military use, although they say there is a single OED citation
from early 19c.
Back to the noun meanings, they say that "scrub" is "an insignificant,
unattractive person" in Standard English, a fool in 20th c. US Black
English, and, since the 1980s, a general pejorative term (lout, failure,
etc.) They don't mention particular sports connection.
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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Richard Maurer
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 7:13 am
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
"Scrubs" is also American slang (somewhat dated) for the members of
a team who rarely get to play and usually sit at the far end of the
bench.
Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
Is it really dated? I hadn't noticed. It's certainly in my active
vocabulary. Scrubs tend to get to play during "garbage time".
Anybody know the etymology? I'd guess it's because they "scrub the
bench" with their butts (cf, "benchwarmers"), but I could well be
wrong.
I agree with the 'somewhat dated' and also thought it was related
to 'bench warmers'. But it is older and more general.
From Washington Irving's pre-1859 (maybe 1809?) 'History of New York':
And now was seen in the fair city of New Amsterdam a
prodigious bustle and preparation for iron war. Recruiting
parties marched hither and thither, calling lustily upon all the
scrubs, the runagates, and tatterdemalions of the Manhattoes
and its vicinity, who had any ambition of sixpence a day, and
immortal fame into the bargain, to enlist in the cause of glory:
--for I would have you note that your warlike heroes who
trudge in the rear of conquerors are generally of that illustrious
class of gentlemen, who are equal candidates for the army
or the bridewell-the halberds or the whipping-post--for
whom Dame Fortune has cast an even die, whether they shall
make their exit by the sword or the halter--and whose deaths
shall, at all events, be a lofty example to their countrymen.
Author: Irving, Washington, 1783-1859.
Title: The works of Washington Irving ...
Publication date: 1860-1863.
Collection: Making of America Books
see p339 (History of New York)
There are some US Civil War quotes that just refer to 'scrubs'.
I think it is the equivalent of WWII 'grunts'.
For a sports context there is this 1898 quote:
Only a Dream.
C. M. B.
IF I should fall asleep to-night
And dream of Heaven,
I want to see a football game
With some old trusty 'leven.
I want to see the "scrubs" there too;
And the "scrubees" with the "scrubs,"
I want to see our big brass band,
And all the college clubs.
Title: Michiganensian: 1898.
Publication date: 1898
Collection: Making of America Books
And between 1912 and 1925, from Michigan's favorite college songs:
I joined the scrubs to play against the varsity last fall,
and all went well, yes, very well, until they handed me the ball.
When Coach had set my nose and jaw
and bandaged up my ear, [...]
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Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
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(I hope to compete in the 2012 Olympics at the half-mule.) |
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