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MC
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:30 am
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There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to call it
a "statue" or a "sculpture," perhaps because some vague notion at the
back of my mind is telling me "statue" refers to human beings... any
thoughts?
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All writers are vain, selfish and lazy,
and at the very bottom of their motives
lies a mystery.--George Orwell
http://www.schmuckwithanunderwood.com/trolls.htm
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:49 am
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:30:41 -0400, MC <copespaz@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
| Quote: | There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to call it
a "statue" or a "sculpture," perhaps because some vague notion at the
back of my mind is telling me "statue" refers to human beings... any
thoughts?
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A statue is a sculpture representing a human or animal.
Either word would do for the bull - "sculpture" being a general, with
"statue" being more specific to the type of subject represented.
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Peter Duncanson
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Martin Ambuhl
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:09 am
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MC wrote:
| Quote: | There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to call it
a "statue" or a "sculpture,
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It's an idol.
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John Dean
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:16 am
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MC wrote:
| Quote: | There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to call
it a "statue" or a "sculpture," perhaps because some vague notion at
the back of my mind is telling me "statue" refers to human beings...
any thoughts?
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I think the terms are pretty much merged / skunked by now. But
traditionally a statue is a 3D representation of a living being (though
statues of mythical & allegorical creatures usually count) where a
sculpture is a figure which has been carved or engraved.
So under those terms your bull is definitely a statue and, depending on
how it was made, may be a sculpture.
By modern standards, it's both.
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John Dean
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Cece
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:29 pm
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"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message news:<ci2lav$4ft$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>...
| Quote: | MC wrote:
There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to call
it a "statue" or a "sculpture," perhaps because some vague notion at
the back of my mind is telling me "statue" refers to human beings...
any thoughts?
I think the terms are pretty much merged / skunked by now. But
traditionally a statue is a 3D representation of a living being (though
statues of mythical & allegorical creatures usually count) where a
sculpture is a figure which has been carved or engraved.
So under those terms your bull is definitely a statue and, depending on
how it was made, may be a sculpture.
By modern standards, it's both.
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Years ago, I had the impression that classic Greek 3D works were
sculpture, but ancient Roman 3D representations were statues.
Sculpture is soaring, sculpture is art. Statues are dull and
pedestrian.
Cece |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:48 pm
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Cece wrote:
| Quote: | "John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
news:<ci2lav$4ft$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>...
MC wrote:
There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to
call it a "statue" or a "sculpture,"
I think the terms are pretty much merged / skunked by now.
Years ago, I had the impression that classic Greek 3D works were
sculpture, but ancient Roman 3D representations were statues.
Sculpture is soaring, sculpture is art. Statues are dull and
pedestrian.
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As opposed to equestrian?
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John Dean
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MC
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:53 pm
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In article <ci4mg1$u4r$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote:
| Quote: | There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to
call it a "statue" or a "sculpture,"
I think the terms are pretty much merged / skunked by now.
Years ago, I had the impression that classic Greek 3D works were
sculpture, but ancient Roman 3D representations were statues.
Sculpture is soaring, sculpture is art. Statues are dull and
pedestrian.
As opposed to equestrian?
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Very nicely played.
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Writing is not a profession, but a vocation of unhappiness.
--Georges Simenon
KILL TROLLS: http://www.schmuckwithanunderwood.com/trolls.htm |
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:59 pm
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On 13 Sep 2004 08:29:26 -0700, ceceliaarmstrong@yahoo.com (Cece) wrote:
| Quote: | "John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message news:<ci2lav$4ft$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>...
MC wrote:
There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to call
it a "statue" or a "sculpture," perhaps because some vague notion at
the back of my mind is telling me "statue" refers to human beings...
any thoughts?
I think the terms are pretty much merged / skunked by now. But
traditionally a statue is a 3D representation of a living being (though
statues of mythical & allegorical creatures usually count) where a
sculpture is a figure which has been carved or engraved.
So under those terms your bull is definitely a statue and, depending on
how it was made, may be a sculpture.
By modern standards, it's both.
Years ago, I had the impression that classic Greek 3D works were
sculpture, but ancient Roman 3D representations were statues.
Sculpture is soaring, sculpture is art. Statues are dull and
pedestrian.
Cece
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Pedestrian? Walking statues? Why did this not reach the TV news?
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Peter Duncanson
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raymond o'hara
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:07 am
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"Cece" >
| Quote: | Years ago, I had the impression that classic Greek 3D works were
sculpture, but ancient Roman 3D representations were statues.
Sculpture is soaring, sculpture is art. Statues are dull and
pedestrian.
Cece
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Roman statues are fine and no worse than Greek ones. What always struck me
as tacky was that the ancients painted them .
I wonder if the Vandals would be proud of the fact that their name is now
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Richard R. Hershberger
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:48 pm
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"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message news:<ci2lav$4ft$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>...
| Quote: | MC wrote:
There's a three-dimensional work of art outside the New York Stock
Exchange that represents a bull, and I am blanking on whether to call
it a "statue" or a "sculpture," perhaps because some vague notion at
the back of my mind is telling me "statue" refers to human beings...
any thoughts?
I think the terms are pretty much merged / skunked by now. But
traditionally a statue is a 3D representation of a living being (though
statues of mythical & allegorical creatures usually count) where a
sculpture is a figure which has been carved or engraved.
So under those terms your bull is definitely a statue and, depending on
how it was made, may be a sculpture.
By modern standards, it's both.
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I don't think "skunked" is the right word. My understanding is that a
usage is skunked when any use will draw criticism. "Hopefully", it is
alleged, is skunked because traditionalists will object to its use as
a sentence adverb while everyone else will be confused by its use as a
non-sentence adverb. (This actually isn't the best example, since I
have never seen any evidence to support the latter assertion. But it
is often made as an argument against the sentence adverb use. In any
case, I am drawing a blank on other skunked words.) Since "statue" is
correct in both traditional and fuzz-headed-permissivist use, it is
hardly skunked. And since "sculpture" may be correct in both, that
term also is not skunked. It is merely disputed.
Richard R. Hershberger |
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