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Skitt
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Western stars |
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Areff wrote:
| Quote: | ray o'hara wrote:
Irreguardless of its purpose it is a beautiful machine, deadliness
does not dimish that.
Uh-oh. Now you've gone and wook up Skitt so many times that he's gone
back to sleep.
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Naah, I'm used to ray.
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Skitt (in Hayward, California)
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Skitt
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:24 pm
Post subject: Re: showed vs shown (was Re: Western stars) |
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CyberCypher wrote:
| Quote: | J. J. Lodder wrote on 02 May 2005:
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Up to now I used 'was shown' for was demonstrated, was proved, etc
and 'was showed' for was made to appear at a show.
Should I mend my ways?
It depends on who you're writing for. It's standard parlance in the
medical field to use "showed", "demonstrated", indicated", and
"suggested" as rough equivalents. Nobody seems to care unless one says
"proved".
Use what the rest of the writers in your field use, unless it's
obviously incorrect because it's ambiguous, like the use of "enhance"
im the medical field to mean "increase" is bloody wrong.
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Those are answers to a different quaestion.
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Skitt (in Hayward, California)
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CyberCypher
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 1:56 am
Post subject: Re: showed vs shown (was Re: Western stars) |
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Skitt wrote on 03 May 2005:
| Quote: | CyberCypher wrote:
J. J. Lodder wrote on 02 May 2005:
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Up to now I used 'was shown' for was demonstrated, was proved,
etc and 'was showed' for was made to appear at a show.
Should I mend my ways?
It depends on who you're writing for. It's standard parlance in
the medical field to use "showed", "demonstrated", indicated",
and "suggested" as rough equivalents. Nobody seems to care unless
one says "proved".
Use what the rest of the writers in your field use, unless it's
obviously incorrect because it's ambiguous, like the use of
"enhance" im the medical field to mean "increase" is bloody
wrong.
Those are answers to a different quaestion.
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I knew that I should've read the entire sentence before posting. I saw
only what i wanted to see.
"Was showed" is absurd.
--
Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
For email, replace numbers with English alphabet.
"You've got to get over this idea that there's a rule for everything."
Professor John Lawler, U. Michigan |
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J. J. Lodder
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:15 am
Post subject: Re: Western stars |
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ray o'hara <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1gvxgvi.1anv4ugmgg8tyN@de-ster.xs4all.nl...
ray o'hara <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
"Rodney" <rodney@touch88gum.com.au> wrote in message
news:4271f0d2$1@news.eftel.com...
"Ugly" is such a negative word.
I would have much preferred it, had you used "less handsome"
| The Huricane is ugly, in comparison.
I always thought Hurricanes were quite cute, I'll grant the Spit is
one
of the most beautiful machines of any type ever produced by man.
When you forget what it was built for, yes,
Irreguardless of its purpose it is a beautiful machine, deadliness does not
dimish that.
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Can you see a machine gun as a work of art?
Jan |
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:19 am
Post subject: Re: Western stars |
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On 02 May 2005, ray o'hara wrote
| Quote: | "J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1gvxgvi.1anv4ugmgg8tyN@de-ster.xs4all.nl...
ray o'hara <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
I always thought Hurricanes were quite cute, I'll grant the
Spit is one of the most beautiful machines of any type ever
produced by man.
When you forget what it was built for, yes,
Irreguardless
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Two OY!s from one word. Cool.
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Cheers, Harvey
Canada for 30 years; S England since 1982.
(for e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van) |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:09 am
Post subject: Re: Western stars |
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"J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1gvxyvp.1wbftme1qosiflN@de-ster.xs4all.nl...
| Quote: | ray o'hara <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
"J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1gvxgvi.1anv4ugmgg8tyN@de-ster.xs4all.nl...
ray o'hara <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
"Rodney" <rodney@touch88gum.com.au> wrote in message
news:4271f0d2$1@news.eftel.com...
"Ugly" is such a negative word.
I would have much preferred it, had you used "less handsome"
| The Huricane is ugly, in comparison.
I always thought Hurricanes were quite cute, I'll grant the Spit
is
one
of the most beautiful machines of any type ever produced by man.
When you forget what it was built for, yes,
Irreguardless of its purpose it is a beautiful machine, deadliness does
not
dimish that.
Can you see a machine gun as a work of art?
Jan
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The inventor of the machine gun, Hiram Maxim of Maine, also invented the
electric hair curler. |
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Thomas W Ping
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:09 am
Post subject: Re: Western stars |
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 23:15:20 +0200, J. J. Lodder wrote:
| Quote: | ray o'hara <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
"J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1gvxgvi.1anv4ugmgg8tyN@de-ster.xs4all.nl...
ray o'hara <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
"Rodney" <rodney@touch88gum.com.au> wrote in message
news:4271f0d2$1@news.eftel.com...
"Ugly" is such a negative word.
I would have much preferred it, had you used "less handsome"
| The Huricane is ugly, in comparison.
I always thought Hurricanes were quite cute, I'll grant the Spit is
one
of the most beautiful machines of any type ever produced by man.
When you forget what it was built for, yes,
Irreguardless of its purpose it is a beautiful machine, deadliness does not
dimish that.
Can you see a machine gun as a work of art?
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You didn't ask me, but: if it's beautiful, sure. And on another level -
a nonvisual level - it doesn't even have to be beautiful to be a piece of
design art or machinists' art.
But, back to visual beauty:
For my (or anyone) having seen or not having seen a beautiful machine
gun does not have anything to do with the beauty of one airplane or
another, any more than one not finding beauty in a porcupine means one
can't find beauty in a soaring eagle.
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Thomas Winston Ping |
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John Holmes
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 5:39 pm
Post subject: Re: showed vs shown (was Re: Western stars) |
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Alan Jones wrote:
| Quote: | "J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1gvttzy.fceyp018w9g5tN@de-ster.xs4all.nl...
Up to now I used 'was shown' for was demonstrated, was proved, etc
and 'was showed' for was made to appear at a show.
Should I mend my ways?
Yes. "Shown" in all senses.
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That is not as bad as one I heard yesterday. A reporter used 'flown'
where 'flowed' was meant, as in 'a lot of water has flown under the
bridge'.
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Regards
John
for mail: my initials plus a u e
at tpg dot com dot au |
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dcw
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 5:52 pm
Post subject: Re: showed vs shown (was Re: Western stars) |
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In article <4278b40c@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, John Holmes <see sig> wrote:
| Quote: | That is not as bad as one I heard yesterday. A reporter used 'flown'
where 'flowed' was meant, as in 'a lot of water has flown under the
bridge'.
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I've heard that occasionally. It would have been correct in Middle
English, but "flew" and "flown" have since been stolen by "fly".
David |
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John Holmes
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:16 am
Post subject: Re: showed vs shown (was Re: Western stars) |
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dcw wrote:
| Quote: | In article <4278b40c@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, John Holmes <see sig> wrote:
That is not as bad as one I heard yesterday. A reporter used 'flown'
where 'flowed' was meant, as in 'a lot of water has flown under the
bridge'.
I've heard that occasionally. It would have been correct in Middle
English, but "flew" and "flown" have since been stolen by "fly".
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What was the original past tense of 'fly'? Was it related to flee and
fled?
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Regards
John
for mail: my initials plus a u e
at tpg dot com dot au |
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dcw
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:46 pm
Post subject: Re: showed vs shown (was Re: Western stars) |
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In article <427c6315$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, John Holmes <see sig> wrote:
| Quote: | dcw wrote:
In article <4278b40c@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, John Holmes <see sig> wrote:
That is not as bad as one I heard yesterday. A reporter used 'flown'
where 'flowed' was meant, as in 'a lot of water has flown under the
bridge'.
I've heard that occasionally. It would have been correct in Middle
English, but "flew" and "flown" have since been stolen by "fly".
What was the original past tense of 'fly'? Was it related to flee and
fled?
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According to Onions, Old English "fly" was "fleogan", pt. "fleah" or
"flugon", pp. "flogen", and its subsequent history is a bit complicated.
"Flee" was "fleon", fleah" or "flugon", "flogen", so it was already
confused with "fly".
David |
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