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Carmen L. Abruzzi
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: hypercorrection Reply with quote

Just heard a blatant hypercorrection on KALW, San Francisco's "other"
public radio station. Pledge week.
Pledge break starts, woman says "Thank you for joining me and Joanne;
er, Joanne and I, on KALW..."
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Pat Durkin
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: hypercorrection Reply with quote

"Carmen L. Abruzzi" <carmenlabruzzi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Just heard a blatant hypercorrection on KALW, San Francisco's "other"
public radio station. Pledge week.
Pledge break starts, woman says "Thank you for joining me and Joanne;
er, Joanne and I, on KALW..."

Typical California talk, if you ask me. Of course, no one did.

Oh, let me admit. . . there were times when my dad used the subjective form
in much the same way. And he was born and bred in Wisconsin.
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Skitt
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: hypercorrection Reply with quote

Pat Durkin wrote:
Quote:
"Carmen L. Abruzzi" wrote:

Just heard a blatant hypercorrection on KALW, San Francisco's "other"
public radio station. Pledge week.
Pledge break starts, woman says "Thank you for joining me and Joanne;
er, Joanne and I, on KALW..."

Typical California talk, if you ask me. Of course, no one did.

Oh, let me admit. . . there were times when my dad used the
subjective form in much the same way. And he was born and bred in
Wisconsin.

Hey, that's a PBS station. They want to sound all cultural-like on those.
None of that there common talk, y'know.
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/
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Jim
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: hypercorrection Reply with quote

At least it wasn't "Joanne and myself."

Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - People, when
Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and berries.
And I'm right here to tell you (that) the berries are just about all
gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician
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Andrew Gwilliam
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: hypercorrection Reply with quote

On 17 Apr 2005 12:50:24 -0700, Jim wrote:

Quote:
At least it wasn't "Joanne and myself."

Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - People, when
Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and berries.
And I'm right here to tell you (that) the berries are just about all
gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician

If I may be so bold, it would be useful if you could actually quote
something of the post that you're responding to/commenting on.

And secondly, your signature should be preceded by "-- " on the line
preceding it. It means that most people using newsreaders will then not
find themselves reading your sig unnecessarily.

--
Andrew Gwilliam
To email me, replace "bottomless_pit" with "silverhelm"
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodi
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: hypercorrection Reply with quote

"Carmen L. Abruzzi" wrote:
Quote:

Just heard a blatant hypercorrection on KALW, San Francisco's "other"
public radio station. Pledge week.
Pledge break starts, woman says "Thank you for joining me and Joanne;
er, Joanne and I, on KALW..."

This is part of that usage where 'me' is considered some sort of

diminutive and 'I' is standing tall and sticking it in your face.
Speakers will put the 'me' in front of the named person noun and feel
all right about it, except when they are worried they will get chastised
for bad grammar. When that is feared, as it clearly would be during a
pledge break at the local PBS station, they will change the 'me' to an
'I', but they won't leave that out front because it's too tall.

Alternatively, you can argue, and you probably will, that the person
just got confused with two supposed rules, one of which states that you
aren't supposed to put yourself first and the other which is that you
are supposed to use the objective case for direct objects. Of course
this latter theory presupposes that the speaker knows that the problem
wasn't using 'me' in that context but rather, supposedly, in the order
of the nouns. I doubt you could prove that is the case.



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+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
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