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Jack Nichols
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:42 am
Post subject: Why would any college student vote for Howard Dean? |
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According to the media, Howard Dean is the epitome of the Democratic
activist -he has mobilized the peace movement and he has single-handedly
managed to control the Internet -a delusion which is extremely serious,
compared to past efforts to ridicule a Democrat through the silly suggestion
that Al Gore invented the Internet. Howard Dean's media profile is an
absolute joke and it is safe to say that the only thing that his "peace
activist" Internet savvy profile inspires --on the count of three now --one,
two three...gag!
Reality:
Howard Dean is the biggest con artist in American history since Richard
Nixon. He has promised to take the government out of the hands of special
interest groups and give it back to ordinary voters, yet Howard Dean has
also indicated that it is futile to try to reform the health care system
because Congress will not let him do it. Anybody who takes this idiot
seriously should be in therapy. Clearly, if Howard Dean cannot even reform
the health care system what makes him think that he is in a position to take
the government out of the hands of special interest groups? Perhaps, Howard
Dean ought to define what he means by special interest groups because if he
continues to dole out silly rhetoric through both sides of the mouth, George
Bush will ask him to be his running mate, and Dick Cheney will finally be
able to retire.
First and foremost, the notion that Howard Dean is a peace activist is
absolutely fraudulent. To be sure, Howard Dean publicly opposed attacking
Iraq to set him apart from fellow Democratic, but this feigned opposition
has been repeatedly contradicted by the war hawk that Dean has conveniently
repressed, for the sake of political expediency. Despite the popular
misrepresentation that Howard Dean is a peace activist who opposes war, Dean
even endorsed the Bush doctrine of preemptive war, saying that he would not
rule out using military force to disarm either North Korea or Iran, and that
makes him the biggest warmonger of all. In fact, Howard Dean is as crafty as
Richard Nixon was. Have all the so called, peace activists forgotten Richard
Nixon, the crafty warmonger who wrote The Real Peace to claim John Lennon's
"constituency" after he was assassinated. To be sure, Lennon was not even an
American, but he was the face of the peace movement, and Richard Nixon, the
former master of the hostile takeover, believed that real peace was about
waging and winning wars.
If you are a peace activist and you think that Howard Dean is your man,
watch your back. Like Nixon before him, Howard Dean understands the
distraction that peace advocates can potentially impose, and he thinks he
has discovered a way to hijack their political influence. In particular,
Senator John Kerry is the Democrat with a balanced view about war and peace,
and Howard Dean's effort to create the impression that he is in fact the
architect of the real peace reflects the very same, manifest delusion that
preoccupied Richard Nixon. If you want to know who the real Howard Dean is,
you have to compare his record to that of John Kerry, and then you will
clearly understand the difference between a Democrat and a crafty, political
opportunist.
Who is the real, Howard Dean? The real Howard Dean is best understood
through his regressive and draconian view of the criminal justice system. As
Governor, he underfunded public defense, and poured money into state's
attorneys, police, and corrections. Dean managed to fill the prisons, not
because crime increased, but because the public was treated like it was
always wrong and the state was always right. Howard Dean is one of those
arrogant extremists who thinks that he has the right to be judge, jury and
executioner, and the climate he creates is best described by famed Attorney,
Gerry Spense, who speaks from experience when he says;
"There is a presumption of innocence, not a presumption of guilt, and
everybody in this country has lost his presumption of innocence and goes
into the courtroom, presumed guilty. People who do not have first hand
experience with the justice system might be surprised to note that the
problem appears to be so widespread that anybody who is oblivious to the
fact that miscarriages of justice are very common, is promoting the myth
rather than the reality. The average American in this country cannot get a
fair trial. Ninety-seven per cent of the people charged eventually get
convicted --now that is a frightening statistic. And I will tell you that a
fair trial in this country is the biggest myth that's been laid out on the
American people since the beginning of time."
Howard Dean espouses the philosophy that the government is always right and
ordinary people are always wrong and he is so extreme that he even thinks
that George Bush is a moderate. To use own words, Howard Dean said that, "in
his soul" Bush is a moderate, and that is not at all surprising, because "in
his soul" Howard Dean is John Ashcroft.
Clearly, the campaign of this would-be tyrant who thinks that he is entitled
to control the Democratic Party because the Internet can easily be used to
launder the money of special interest groups, has peaked and is about to
crash. The Iowa caucus is just one week away, and although the conventional
wisdom claims that Howard Dean is still the front-runner, it is only a
matter of time...
Indeed, Howard Dean does not have very much to say lately because he is too
busy trying to deflect one gaffe after another, and the temper of this
wanabe dictator is beginning to show. "I'm a little tired of the 'gotcha'
politics of this campaign," Dean fumed on CNN as his campaign went into full
defense mode, and this is just the beginning. If he is tired now, how does
he expect to survive a race against George Bush? Needless to say, when the
Democrats discover the real Howard Dean, he will not have to, because John
Kerry and John Edwards will re-inherit the votes that belong to them.
As Governor, Howard Dean endorsed the National Governors Association policy
opposing the Kyoto Protocol and recommending that the United States "not
sign or ratify any agreement that would result in serious harm to the US
economy." For environmentalists, EP, under Dean's leadership, came to mean
"Expedite Permits", rather than Environmental Protection and business
leaders were impressed with the way Dean went to bat for them against
Vermont's stringent environmental regulations. Why is Al Gore supporting
this guy?
Dean is supposed to be so popular that he has allegedly raised over $40
million, and the average donation, it is frequently pointed out, is well
under $100. The zeal to create the impression that everybody except Howard
Dean is influenced by special interests, is absolutely preposterous. Special
interest groups are not morons, they use the Internet to direct money to the
candidate of their choice, and they are better at it than anybody else
because they let their money do all the talking. The claim that the people
who are funding Dean's campaign do not expect anything in return, is an
obscene fraud. Howard Dean's entire campaign is based on well orchestrated
lies, distortions and deceptions and they are clearly too deliberate to fail
to betray the pattern and the conduct of lobbyists who spend millions of
dollars, to distort the truth. The claim that Howard Dean's campaign is
driven by grass-root supporters is clearly a desperate fraud, and the
exuberant enthusiasm of those who have taken the bait, is based on the
failure to recognize the real Howard Dean.
According to popular misconception, Howard Dean has used the Internet to
prove that the Republican and Democratic parties are no longer the most
effective ways to organize like-minded people to achieve political ends.
Clearly, the suggestion that Howard Dean has single-handedly upstaged the
Democratic Party is the wet dream of crafty political operatives who have
generated the perception that Howard Dean is essentially a third-party
candidate who has used Internet technology to achieve a takeover of the
Democratic Party. But perception is not reality. Like Richard Nixon, who
collected million dollar, cash donations in brown paper bags to bribe
eyewitnesses who were in a position to expose corruption, Howard Dean should
not brag about the size of his war chest, because if all of his fans are
correct, then the Internet has the power to take away that which it has so
generously granted --the false perception that Howard Dean is John Kerry and
John Edwards, rolled into a single candidate. Howard Dean claims that he is
the only distinct candidate when John Edwards is the only Democratic
candidate who has not spend his entire adult life in politics and John Kerry
is the Democrat with the progressive record that Howard Dean is trying to
hijack, through his so called ability to upstage the Democratic party.
The media loves to promote the wonderful delusion that Howard Dean has used
the Internet to create his own party, his own hierarchy, his own lists, his
own money, and his own organization, but that does not make any sense at
all, Indeed, if that were true, Howard Dean would not even need the
Democratic Party, he could simply use all his so called Internet resources
to run as an Independent.
Howard Dean is on his way out because he has used the resume of Senator John
Kerry to create the false perception that he deserves to be the Democratic
front-runner, and that is clearly counterproductive because a hostile
takeover demands more complicity than Howard Dean has managed to secure.
Gore and Bradley are not enough.
Make no mistake about it, the Internet is not Dr. Frankenstein. The
Republican and the Democratic parties still dominate and the Internet is
merely the docile recipient of Republican and Democratic resources. If the
Republicans, who are always obsessed by the effort to control the media,
think that Dean's hostile takeover of the Democratic party will enhance
George Bush's re-election prospects, they are correct. If they have filled
Dean's head with the fantasy that he can use the Internet to subvert the
will of the entire Democratic party, the arrogance is understood. But a
democracy is not about creating your own party, it's about joining or
leading the party, and Howard Dean is not even a player, in either capacity.
While governor of Vermont, Howard Dean accepted personal pay from special
interests at least five times for speeches and also received at least
$60,000 in checks and pledges from insurers who benefited from a state tax
break,
In 1993, the two insurers sent the governor a gift, described only as a
"package" after Dean met with them to discuss a bill that would provide new
tax breaks and Dean signed the bill into law later that year. Is this the
guy who uses the Internet, to by-pass special interest groups, or are
special interest groups financing dean's campaign?
Despite the fact that Howard Dean spent 2 years trying to manipulate the
people of Iowa, the Des Moines Register endorsed John Edwards and three
other Iowa newspapers endorsed Massachusetts Senator John Kerry. Al Gore was
successfully conned into thinking that Howard Dean is a Democrat like John
Kerry and John Edwards, but the people of Iowa are evidently beginning to
appreciate the difference.
http://www.geocities.com/bobeshope/kerry.htm |
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Out West
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Why would any college student vote for Howard Dean? |
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I take it you're a God fearing, GW supporter. Are you proud of him and what
he's done to our country so far? I dare you to say you are with a straight
face. -B
"Jack Nichols" <jacknichols123@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2de1f58e.0401131342.3d3a31f@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | According to the media, Howard Dean is the epitome of the Democratic
activist -he has mobilized the peace movement and he has single-handedly
managed to control the Internet -a delusion which is extremely serious,
compared to past efforts to ridicule a Democrat through the silly
suggestion
that Al Gore invented the Internet. Howard Dean's media profile is an
absolute joke and it is safe to say that the only thing that his "peace
activist" Internet savvy profile inspires --on the count of three
now --one,
two three...gag!
Reality:
Howard Dean is the biggest con artist in American history since Richard
Nixon. He has promised to take the government out of the hands of special
interest groups and give it back to ordinary voters, yet Howard Dean has
also indicated that it is futile to try to reform the health care system
because Congress will not let him do it. Anybody who takes this idiot
seriously should be in therapy. Clearly, if Howard Dean cannot even reform
the health care system what makes him think that he is in a position to
take
the government out of the hands of special interest groups? Perhaps,
Howard
Dean ought to define what he means by special interest groups because if
he
continues to dole out silly rhetoric through both sides of the mouth,
George
Bush will ask him to be his running mate, and Dick Cheney will finally be
able to retire.
First and foremost, the notion that Howard Dean is a peace activist is
absolutely fraudulent. To be sure, Howard Dean publicly opposed attacking
Iraq to set him apart from fellow Democratic, but this feigned opposition
has been repeatedly contradicted by the war hawk that Dean has
conveniently
repressed, for the sake of political expediency. Despite the popular
misrepresentation that Howard Dean is a peace activist who opposes war,
Dean
even endorsed the Bush doctrine of preemptive war, saying that he would
not
rule out using military force to disarm either North Korea or Iran, and
that
makes him the biggest warmonger of all. In fact, Howard Dean is as crafty
as
Richard Nixon was. Have all the so called, peace activists forgotten
Richard
Nixon, the crafty warmonger who wrote The Real Peace to claim John
Lennon's
"constituency" after he was assassinated. To be sure, Lennon was not even
an
American, but he was the face of the peace movement, and Richard Nixon,
the
former master of the hostile takeover, believed that real peace was about
waging and winning wars.
If you are a peace activist and you think that Howard Dean is your man,
watch your back. Like Nixon before him, Howard Dean understands the
distraction that peace advocates can potentially impose, and he thinks he
has discovered a way to hijack their political influence. In particular,
Senator John Kerry is the Democrat with a balanced view about war and
peace,
and Howard Dean's effort to create the impression that he is in fact the
architect of the real peace reflects the very same, manifest delusion that
preoccupied Richard Nixon. If you want to know who the real Howard Dean
is,
you have to compare his record to that of John Kerry, and then you will
clearly understand the difference between a Democrat and a crafty,
political
opportunist.
Who is the real, Howard Dean? The real Howard Dean is best understood
through his regressive and draconian view of the criminal justice system.
As
Governor, he underfunded public defense, and poured money into state's
attorneys, police, and corrections. Dean managed to fill the prisons, not
because crime increased, but because the public was treated like it was
always wrong and the state was always right. Howard Dean is one of those
arrogant extremists who thinks that he has the right to be judge, jury and
executioner, and the climate he creates is best described by famed
Attorney,
Gerry Spense, who speaks from experience when he says;
"There is a presumption of innocence, not a presumption of guilt, and
everybody in this country has lost his presumption of innocence and goes
into the courtroom, presumed guilty. People who do not have first hand
experience with the justice system might be surprised to note that the
problem appears to be so widespread that anybody who is oblivious to the
fact that miscarriages of justice are very common, is promoting the myth
rather than the reality. The average American in this country cannot get a
fair trial. Ninety-seven per cent of the people charged eventually get
convicted --now that is a frightening statistic. And I will tell you that
a
fair trial in this country is the biggest myth that's been laid out on the
American people since the beginning of time."
Howard Dean espouses the philosophy that the government is always right
and
ordinary people are always wrong and he is so extreme that he even thinks
that George Bush is a moderate. To use own words, Howard Dean said that,
"in
his soul" Bush is a moderate, and that is not at all surprising, because
"in
his soul" Howard Dean is John Ashcroft.
Clearly, the campaign of this would-be tyrant who thinks that he is
entitled
to control the Democratic Party because the Internet can easily be used to
launder the money of special interest groups, has peaked and is about to
crash. The Iowa caucus is just one week away, and although the
conventional
wisdom claims that Howard Dean is still the front-runner, it is only a
matter of time...
Indeed, Howard Dean does not have very much to say lately because he is
too
busy trying to deflect one gaffe after another, and the temper of this
wanabe dictator is beginning to show. "I'm a little tired of the 'gotcha'
politics of this campaign," Dean fumed on CNN as his campaign went into
full
defense mode, and this is just the beginning. If he is tired now, how does
he expect to survive a race against George Bush? Needless to say, when the
Democrats discover the real Howard Dean, he will not have to, because John
Kerry and John Edwards will re-inherit the votes that belong to them.
As Governor, Howard Dean endorsed the National Governors Association
policy
opposing the Kyoto Protocol and recommending that the United States "not
sign or ratify any agreement that would result in serious harm to the US
economy." For environmentalists, EP, under Dean's leadership, came to mean
"Expedite Permits", rather than Environmental Protection and business
leaders were impressed with the way Dean went to bat for them against
Vermont's stringent environmental regulations. Why is Al Gore supporting
this guy?
Dean is supposed to be so popular that he has allegedly raised over $40
million, and the average donation, it is frequently pointed out, is well
under $100. The zeal to create the impression that everybody except Howard
Dean is influenced by special interests, is absolutely preposterous.
Special
interest groups are not morons, they use the Internet to direct money to
the
candidate of their choice, and they are better at it than anybody else
because they let their money do all the talking. The claim that the people
who are funding Dean's campaign do not expect anything in return, is an
obscene fraud. Howard Dean's entire campaign is based on well orchestrated
lies, distortions and deceptions and they are clearly too deliberate to
fail
to betray the pattern and the conduct of lobbyists who spend millions of
dollars, to distort the truth. The claim that Howard Dean's campaign is
driven by grass-root supporters is clearly a desperate fraud, and the
exuberant enthusiasm of those who have taken the bait, is based on the
failure to recognize the real Howard Dean.
According to popular misconception, Howard Dean has used the Internet to
prove that the Republican and Democratic parties are no longer the most
effective ways to organize like-minded people to achieve political ends.
Clearly, the suggestion that Howard Dean has single-handedly upstaged the
Democratic Party is the wet dream of crafty political operatives who have
generated the perception that Howard Dean is essentially a third-party
candidate who has used Internet technology to achieve a takeover of the
Democratic Party. But perception is not reality. Like Richard Nixon, who
collected million dollar, cash donations in brown paper bags to bribe
eyewitnesses who were in a position to expose corruption, Howard Dean
should
not brag about the size of his war chest, because if all of his fans are
correct, then the Internet has the power to take away that which it has so
generously granted --the false perception that Howard Dean is John Kerry
and
John Edwards, rolled into a single candidate. Howard Dean claims that he
is
the only distinct candidate when John Edwards is the only Democratic
candidate who has not spend his entire adult life in politics and John
Kerry
is the Democrat with the progressive record that Howard Dean is trying to
hijack, through his so called ability to upstage the Democratic party.
The media loves to promote the wonderful delusion that Howard Dean has
used
the Internet to create his own party, his own hierarchy, his own lists,
his
own money, and his own organization, but that does not make any sense at
all, Indeed, if that were true, Howard Dean would not even need the
Democratic Party, he could simply use all his so called Internet resources
to run as an Independent.
Howard Dean is on his way out because he has used the resume of Senator
John
Kerry to create the false perception that he deserves to be the Democratic
front-runner, and that is clearly counterproductive because a hostile
takeover demands more complicity than Howard Dean has managed to secure.
Gore and Bradley are not enough.
Make no mistake about it, the Internet is not Dr. Frankenstein. The
Republican and the Democratic parties still dominate and the Internet is
merely the docile recipient of Republican and Democratic resources. If the
Republicans, who are always obsessed by the effort to control the media,
think that Dean's hostile takeover of the Democratic party will enhance
George Bush's re-election prospects, they are correct. If they have filled
Dean's head with the fantasy that he can use the Internet to subvert the
will of the entire Democratic party, the arrogance is understood. But a
democracy is not about creating your own party, it's about joining or
leading the party, and Howard Dean is not even a player, in either
capacity.
While governor of Vermont, Howard Dean accepted personal pay from special
interests at least five times for speeches and also received at least
$60,000 in checks and pledges from insurers who benefited from a state tax
break,
In 1993, the two insurers sent the governor a gift, described only as a
"package" after Dean met with them to discuss a bill that would provide
new
tax breaks and Dean signed the bill into law later that year. Is this the
guy who uses the Internet, to by-pass special interest groups, or are
special interest groups financing dean's campaign?
Despite the fact that Howard Dean spent 2 years trying to manipulate the
people of Iowa, the Des Moines Register endorsed John Edwards and three
other Iowa newspapers endorsed Massachusetts Senator John Kerry. Al Gore
was
successfully conned into thinking that Howard Dean is a Democrat like John
Kerry and John Edwards, but the people of Iowa are evidently beginning to
appreciate the difference.
http://www.geocities.com/bobeshope/kerry.htm |
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Mrsriley72
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:29 am
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"Out West" <byer5@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message news:<lB4Nb.8315$1e.92@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
| Quote: | I take it you're a God fearing, GW supporter. Are you proud of him and what
he's done to our country so far? I dare you to say you are with a straight
face. -B
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I don;t think the OP comes across as a GWB supporter, as he/she says
something like "Dean doubles speaks so much, he ought to be Bush's
running mate" which implies the OP thinks Bush does just as much
double-talk.
And, as for your dare. I am all for Bush. Say what you will. My
opinions are substantiated, and based upon historical perspective, not
merely current events. I won't discuss politics here though, this is
very much the wrong forum.
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Abe Kohen
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:18 am
Post subject: Re: Why would any college student vote for Howard Dean? |
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"Mrsriley72" <mrsriley72@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34c97d09.0401141029.2c0237ad@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | "Out West" <byer5@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<lB4Nb.8315$1e.92@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
I take it you're a God fearing, GW supporter. Are you proud of him and
what
he's done to our country so far? I dare you to say you are with a
straight
face. -B
I don;t think the OP comes across as a GWB supporter, as he/she says
something like "Dean doubles speaks so much, he ought to be Bush's
running mate" which implies the OP thinks Bush does just as much
double-talk.
And, as for your dare. I am all for Bush. Say what you will. My
opinions are substantiated, and based upon historical perspective, not
merely current events. I won't discuss politics here though, this is
very much the wrong forum.
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I'm a Democrat who voted for and supports W.
College students typically vote for fringe candidates such as McGovern and
Nadir. Some of them get jobs after college and figure out that being soaked
for taxes is not fun, so they start voting for more mainstream candidates.
Others either because they get no jobs, or because they stay in the Ivory
Tower, or sometimes for pure idealism maintain their fringe policies.
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Mike Walton
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Why would any college student vote for Howard Dean? |
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Howard Dean's "organization" fails to manipulate Iowa voters
The media, especially Republican mouthpiece, Judy Woodruff is
repeatedly claiming that "organization" is going to make the
difference in Iowa, as if the organized plot to steal the election
from John Kerry is still a secret. LOL
The streets in Iowa are teeming with youths and not-so-youths in
orange caps and knapsacks, who have come in from out of state to try
to muscle Dr. Dean to victory. Sounds like the same GOP "love-in," the
angry mob that stopped the counting of votes by rushing the doors
outside the office of the Miami-Dade supervisor of elections to steal
the election from Al Gore.
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Mike Walton
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:06 am
Post subject: Re: Why would any college student vote for Howard Dean? |
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Bush is trustworthy compared to Howard Dean and his freakish
concession/victory speech in Iowa exposed the extent of his lunacy.
"He's crazy," said Republican pollster Frank Luntz after watching
Dean's bizarre performance. "This is everything that voters don't want
to hear from him. He's just lost the Democratic nomination for
president. He's too hot." Bush used his state of the union address to
claim that he is the visionary compared to Howard Dean but that is
difficult to believe because Howlin' Howie was having one of his own,
when he seemed to be celebrating a trouncing in Iowa.
http://www.geocities.com/bobeshope/ticket.htm |
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Vinny
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:27 pm
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mikewalton55@yahoo.com (Mike Walton) wrote in message news:<d2701d5a.0401201906.39fe348a@posting.google.com>...
| Quote: | Bush is trustworthy compared to Howard Dean and his freakish
concession/victory speech in Iowa exposed the extent of his lunacy.
"He's crazy," said Republican pollster Frank Luntz after watching
Dean's bizarre performance. "This is everything that voters don't want
to hear from him. He's just lost the Democratic nomination for
president. He's too hot." Bush used his state of the union address to
claim that he is the visionary compared to Howard Dean but that is
difficult to believe because Howlin' Howie was having one of his own,
when he seemed to be celebrating a trouncing in Iowa.
http://www.geocities.com/bobeshope/ticket.htm
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Shut up and get a life u freaks, they are all wankers!!!1 |
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Mike Walton
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Why would any college student vote for Howard Dean? |
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Howard Dean had become the "waterboy" for every talking head in the
media, and the predictions of every pundit collapsed on the shoulders
of one man -and if he is not in desperate need of some reality
therapy, then who is?
Perhaps those who continue to say organization, organization,
organization... need help even more.
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Jack Nichols
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:22 am
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This censorship is certainly too extreme to be anything but EVIL !
The people who defend Scott are really nice -Christopher Pixley, Mark
Geragos, David Sween, Vivian Mitchell, etc. etc.
The people who condemn Scott are bizarre, Gloria Allred, Nancy Grace,
Ava Frey, etc. etc.
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