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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:49 am
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I fucking get sick every time i am around colleges. I feel this sickness
because of the inequality in the world and how colleges do not reflect that
the world as whole. They mostly reflect rich people who can afford better
life styles than others. I especially hate honors programs, which are like
even more rich people than the rich people who go to school and are not in
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Guybrush Threepwood
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:49 am
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:51:32 +0000, Spockie Hendrick wrote:
<Please do not feed the troll>
| Quote: | I fucking get sick every time i am around colleges. I feel this sickness
because of the inequality in the world and how colleges do not reflect that
the world as whole.
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<Hypocritical response>
Colleges reflect the segment of society that want a college education.
Guy |
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SJG
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:59 am
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The troll? Interesting because what he brings up in layman terms is exactly
what many in education policy are working to address...
On 1/12/04 5:49 PM, in article pan.2004.01.13.01.49.28.233969@hotmail.com,
"Guybrush Threepwood" <guybrush@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:51:32 +0000, Spockie Hendrick wrote:
Please do not feed the troll
I fucking get sick every time i am around colleges. I feel this sickness
because of the inequality in the world and how colleges do not reflect that
the world as whole.
Hypocritical response
Colleges reflect the segment of society that want a college education.
Guy
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Spockie Hendrick
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:42 am
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| Quote: | The troll? Interesting because what he brings up in layman terms is
exactly what many in education policy are working to address...
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The inequality is not just in colleges, it is everywhere. Groups are
seperated and the inequality is not shown because the poor people live with
poor and rich live with rich. Expensive automobiles are driven by the
rich, little if none are given to poor people at a percentage based on
their salary. Poor people live in shitty old houses, and around them are
other poor people. The rich do not live there. Therefore, I ask where is
the inequality? It is fucking hiden all fucking over and people keep it
well hiden because the real world is probably more sad than they can deal
with. Yes, colleges are fucking full of privileged people all fucking
privileged. In addition, the colleges they fucking try to be more diverse
by having different races and background, but the it still remains than all
those people are privileged. What is the solution? How can there be less
inequality in money and privileges? I do not know, but it all makes me
fucking sick to the throat, and i feel very uncomfortable in places where
there is no real world reflection as a whole. |
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Peter
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:40 pm
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| Quote: | I fucking get sick every time i am around colleges. I feel this sickness
because of the inequality in the world and how colleges do not reflect
that
the world as whole. They mostly reflect rich people who can afford better
life styles than others. I especially hate honors programs, which are
like
even more rich people than the rich people who go to school and are not in
honors.
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Perhaps you should be around colleges more often - it might improve your
English-writing ability? (Task for those of you who are bored: see how many
grammatical and/or stylistic errors you can find in the above paragraph.) |
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Kath
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:15 pm
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"Spockie Hendrick" <spockie@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xns946E82FCC5F43spockieverizonnet@199.45.49.11...
| Quote: | I fucking get sick every time i am around colleges. I feel this sickness
because of the inequality in the world and how colleges do not reflect
that
the world as whole. They mostly reflect rich people who can afford better
life styles than others. I especially hate honors programs, which are
like
even more rich people than the rich people who go to school and are not in
honors.
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And what are you contributing to society to make things better "for the
world as a whole"? |
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rick++
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:55 pm
Post subject: Re: to annomalous2000 fm Mrsriley72 Re: Parents treating kid |
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| Quote: | Son #1 got good grades in 10th and 11th, but barely passed 12th. He
took no honors or AP courses. He spent his summers in high school
hanging out with his friends and saved no money for college expenses.
His SATI was about 850, and he took no SAT II's. For college, he chose
a private four year school with a 100% acceptance rate. He just
finished his first semester. He skipped classes alot, completely
stopped going to one class, spends most of his time hanging out with
his friends who are still in high school, and finished the semester on
academic probation.
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You kids wouldn't be named George, Neill, and Jeb,
would they Barb?  |
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Abe Kohen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:22 am
Post subject: Re: OT: Leftist NYTimes: Attacks on Education Law Leave Demo |
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OT = Off Topic.
Leftist NY Times = The NY Times is a leftist newspaper.
Attacks ... = Article from the Paper of Record for the Left.
Ram Lau keeps using strawman arguments about FOX, a media company identified
with the right. Even the Paper of the Left shows that Democrats were heavily
involved in the NCLB legislation and now find themselves in a quagmire.
(I don't watch FOX on cable, because I don't yet have cable. However in
hotels, etc. I find FOX's reporting refreshing. I watch NBC News, if it
matters, and I am a registered Democrat. My Democrat heroes include Ed Koch,
Daniel Patrick Moynihan, and Henry "Scoop" Jackson.)
Abe
"SJG" <ucb_gal@pleaseremove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:BC276CC4.5424%ucb_gal@pleaseremove.yahoo.com...
| Quote: | How is this leftist? If anything, it seems less than flattering. The
article hardly speaks of why most in the education field are not
proponents
of NCLB.
Or was that sarcasm?
On 1/11/04 8:17 PM, in article
btt741$bac54$1@ID-102750.news.uni-berlin.de,
"Abe Kohen" <akohen@xenon.stanford.edu> wrote:
Attacks on Education Law Leave Democrats in a Bind
By KATE ZERNIKE
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Abe Kohen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:37 am
Post subject: Re: CMU more affordable to low-income whites and Asian-Ameri |
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"Ram Lau" <ramlau@cc.no-spam.gatech.edu> wrote
| Quote: | OUR tax dollars is wasted by the government regardless.
Good argument for LESS government.
Go ahead and vote for the libertarians. The Republicans aren't saving your
tax
money.
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I am a registered Democrat. At the polls I vote for the better candidate -
regardless of their party affiliation.
| Quote: | The question is very serious. Naive people think that taxes are OPM and
thus
are in favor of soaking taxes from Other People.
Jeff Immelt and Bill Gross are the sponge.
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Jeff Immelt (and his predecessor "Neutron" Jack Welch) and GE have
contributed more to the wealth of America than you ever will.
I can't say much about Bill Gross as I'm an equity man myself, and I never
really understood bonds and bond trading.
| Quote: | Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton. Have they raised teachers salaries?
Perhaps. And what's your point?
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Even the Presidents who benefitted from the Teachers' Unions $$ did not
raise teachers salaries, so what do you want from W?
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Salaries are set at the local level. Income and/or Property taxes.
The salaries should be set higher. That's what I tried to convey.
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I totally agree, however, it's up to local government (not federal) to
rectify the situation.
Abe |
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JHaberer
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:08 am
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| Quote: | I fucking get sick every time i am around colleges. I feel this sickness
because of the inequality in the world and how colleges do not reflect that
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God bless the colleges. I grew up poor, had nothing. Went into the military
for a couple years. GI Bill paid my way through college. I now have a job in
which I pay more in tax than a lot of people make.
I am sending 2 children through school (debt fee) not because I can but
because I want to. They have to pay for graduate school.
Where else but America. God bless the American way. It's there for everybody.
you just have to get off your butt and seek it out. |
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Ram Lau
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:49 am
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| Quote: | Jeff Immelt (and his predecessor "Neutron" Jack Welch) and GE have
contributed more to the wealth of America than you ever will.
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Immelt is by no means a crook, there are people who are much worse than him. I
was suggesting how much tax rebates the richest ones like Immelt and Gross get.
Usually the "most richest" are more philanthropic because of legacy/publicity
issues. It's the average CEO who "makes less" who are the greediest. But then
it's always been the case "only little people pay taxes."
| Quote: | I can't say much about Bill Gross as I'm an equity man myself, and I never
really understood bonds and bond trading.
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Are you a daytrader? I have some experience to share if that's the case.
| Quote: | Even the Presidents who benefitted from the Teachers' Unions $$ did not
raise teachers salaries, so what do you want from W?
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I really don't have any expectation. But his tax cuts are hurting public
schools. We all can feel it. I don't blame them because the poor are not a part
of their constituency. But it's pretty shameless and hypocritical for them to
claim "No Child Left Behind" and say they can't afford to fund education.
| Quote: | I totally agree, however, it's up to local government (not federal) to
rectify the situation.
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The local governments are broke as hell. They are trying hard to raise state and
local taxes though, thanks to the Bush tax cuts.
Ram Lau |
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Abe Kohen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 11:34 am
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"Ram Lau" <ramlau@cc.no-spam.gatech.edu> wrote
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Are you a daytrader? I have some experience to share if that's the case.
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Hell no. I used to be a professional "upstairs" trader.
Daytrading is for losers.
Abe |
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Ram Lau
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:04 pm
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| Quote: | Hell no. I used to be a professional "upstairs" trader.
Daytrading is for losers.
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True, daytrading is for losers who lose money. I don't mind making some tuition
money every now and then doing daytrading though. There are a few daytraders I
know who retired before 35 and are enjoying life now. Them "winning losers"
still daytrade sometimes for their charities though.
Ram Lau |
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Hank Murphy
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:32 pm
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Spockie Hendrick wrote in message ...<snip>
Spockie, welcome back!
How are you doing at ASU?
How's your mom?
Lighten up. While you still can.
Hank Murphy
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Out West
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:35 pm
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"Spockie Hendrick" <spockie@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xns946ED2EB29D21spockieverizonnet@199.45.49.11...
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The troll? Interesting because what he brings up in layman terms is
exactly what many in education policy are working to address...
The inequality is not just in colleges, it is everywhere. Groups are
seperated and the inequality is not shown because the poor people live
with
poor and rich live with rich. Expensive automobiles are driven by the
rich, little if none are given to poor people at a percentage based on
their salary. Poor people live in shitty old houses, and around them are
other poor people. The rich do not live there. Therefore, I ask where is
the inequality? It is fucking hiden all fucking over and people keep it
well hiden because the real world is probably more sad than they can deal
with. Yes, colleges are fucking full of privileged people all fucking
privileged. In addition, the colleges they fucking try to be more diverse
by having different races and background, but the it still remains than
all
those people are privileged. What is the solution? How can there be less
inequality in money and privileges? I do not know, but it all makes me
fucking sick to the throat, and i feel very uncomfortable in places where
there is no real world reflection as a whole.
I know people who put themselves through school the long way with no |
parental help. Junior college part time at night (four years) to state
school part time (three years) to good paying job and paid off their loans
in less than ten years, had kids and are now paying full price for those
kids to go to college debt free without having to work their way through. In
the United States, College is there for anyone (and I mean anyone) who wants
to do it. The only way to pull yourself out of those crappy houses in the US
is to do it yourself or you could go live in a socialist society. For
example, Denmark with enormous taxes for which you get free health care,
college, etc....but then people get really lazy (heck, it's given to
you...why try?) and they also have all these mechanisms in place to keep
people from making their house look better than their neighbors, for
example. The more you earn the gianter your taxes become so it is near
impossible to 'get ahead' in a socialist country because no matter how much
you make your net won't change very much. Maybe you'd like a socialist
economy better? Then all the houses would look about the same as your
neighbors and the difference between you and he would be minimal and you
could go to college for free (depending on if you were deemed smart enough
by the government to spend the money on).
-B |
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