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John Swindle
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Popemobile |
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"Daniel James" <wastebasket@nospam.aaisp.org> wrote in message
news:VA.00000acb.2e37353e@nospam.aaisp.org...
| Quote: | In article news:<aMl4e.7133$pU5.33@trnddc06>, John Swindle wrote:
"Airmobile" is the ringer, at least in that context. The
pronunciation gives it away: primary stress on the second syllable.
I don't follow ... oh, maybe I do ... you're saying that "airmobile"
has the stress on the second syllable and all the others don't? It's a
long time since I saw /Archaeopteryx Now/ (so long that it may be
nearly extinct) and I don't recall the pronunciation of "airmobile"
.. but seeing it written I was mentally pronouncing it with the same
stress (first syllable) as "popemobile" and the others.
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I haven't actually seen the movie. There was something called
1st Cav Div (Airmobile) in the US Army in the Vietnam War,
though. I heard primary stress on the second syllable, secondary
stress on the first syllable (for improved military pomposity), and
I think a schwa for the vowel in the last syllable. |
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Daniel James
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:43 pm
Post subject: Re: Popemobile |
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In article news:<4254A7BF.EAAA04A@yahoo-dot.ca>, Odysseus wrote:
| Quote: | the substance whose official name is "methanol" is widely known
as "wood alcohol", "methyl alcohol", "methyl hydrate", &
"methylated spirits"
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"Methylated spirit" is actually mostly ethanol (ethyl alcohol) with
enough methanol added to render it usafe for drinking, so that it
can be sold as a solvent or fuel without payment of any tax (or
other restriction) that may be apply to the sale of alcoholic
beverages.
"Mineralized methylated spirit" is the same stuff but with a
mineral dye (usually purple) and unpleasant flavouring agent added
to make it unpleasant (as well as unhealthy) to drink.
... but I'm sure you knew that, really.
I agree with your comments on octane isomers (though I thought it
was 2-methyl-heptane not 2,2,4-trimethyl-pentane that had been
arbitrarily chosen as the "100 octane" standard ... I may well be
wrong and haven't looked it up).
Cheers,
Daniel. |
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Odysseus
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Popemobile |
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Daniel James wrote:
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In article news:<4254A7BF.EAAA04A@yahoo-dot.ca>, Odysseus wrote:
the substance whose official name is "methanol" is widely known
as "wood alcohol", "methyl alcohol", "methyl hydrate", &
"methylated spirits"
"Methylated spirit" is actually mostly ethanol (ethyl alcohol) with
enough methanol added to render it usafe for drinking, so that it
can be sold as a solvent or fuel without payment of any tax (or
other restriction) that may be apply to the sale of alcoholic
beverages.
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Yes, I was mistaken to include that in the list; it's also called
"denatured alcohol". (My high-school chemistry teacher invoked it as
evidence for the old saw about the inevitability of death and taxes,
since every legally available form of grain alcohol entails either
the one or the other.)
| Quote: | "Mineralized methylated spirit" is the same stuff but with a
mineral dye (usually purple) and unpleasant flavouring agent added
to make it unpleasant (as well as unhealthy) to drink.
.. but I'm sure you knew that, really.
I agree with your comments on octane isomers (though I thought it
was 2-methyl-heptane not 2,2,4-trimethyl-pentane that had been
arbitrarily chosen as the "100 octane" standard ... I may well be
wrong and haven't looked it up).
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I think a chemist would usually understand "iso-octane" to mean
2-methylheptane, but in this particular application the more branched
compound is what's meant -- at any rate that's what I gathered from a
few minutes of Googling.
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Odysseus |
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Daniel James
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Popemobile |
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In article news:<425652A6.37CB2F39@yahoo-dot.ca>, Odysseus wrote:
[of methylated spirit]
| Quote: | My high-school chemistry teacher invoked it as
evidence for the old saw about the inevitability of death and taxes,
since every legally available form of grain alcohol entails either
the one or the other.
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I rather like that.
| Quote: | I think a chemist would usually understand "iso-octane" to mean
2-methylheptane ...
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As a lapsed chemist myself I think that's what I was remembering ...
| Quote: | ... but in this particular application the more branched
compound is what's meant -- at any rate that's what I gathered
from a few minutes of Googling.
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Indeed. Now that I've had time to conduct that simple bit of research
my Google reveals the same. It also reveals that I wasn't wrong in
remembering that ethanol can be used as an additive to increase the
octane rating of fuels, which I almost mentioned in the discussion of
"ethyl" gasoline, elsethread.
Cheers,
Daniel. |
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