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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:09 pm
Post subject: Re: What is a 'liasor'? |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:05:25 +0100, Robin Bignall
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| Quote: | In the ICU I attended, each patient had full-time nursing treatment.
Back on the ward, the same treatment would be called 'being
specialled'. Nurses would be allocated such that there was always one
in the room, 24/7. As you can imagine, with the general shortage of
trained nurses, people were specialled for the shortest time possible.
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I haven't heard that term for years. Being "specialled", in US
hospitals, meant that the patient or the patient's family hired a
nurse out of their own pocket to sit with the patient. There were
nurses that hired on for special duty only. There are agencies that
provide specials.
One of my wife's friends did this, but said it was a horrible job.
Only the very rich hired specials, and they treated the nurse like a
servant. She came out all right, though, since her last job was
specialling a rich old lady who was hospitalized for three years. The
lady put my wife's friend in the will and she got over $100,000.
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Tony Cooper
Orlando FL |
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Father Ignatius
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:29 pm
Post subject: Re: What is a 'liasor'? |
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"J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It is a standard medical specialism these day in the Netherlands,
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[faintly] "specialism"? |
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Robin Bignall
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:44 am
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:09:32 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:05:25 +0100, Robin Bignall
docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote:
In the ICU I attended, each patient had full-time nursing treatment.
Back on the ward, the same treatment would be called 'being
specialled'. Nurses would be allocated such that there was always one
in the room, 24/7. As you can imagine, with the general shortage of
trained nurses, people were specialled for the shortest time possible.
I haven't heard that term for years. Being "specialled", in US
hospitals, meant that the patient or the patient's family hired a
nurse out of their own pocket to sit with the patient. There were
nurses that hired on for special duty only. There are agencies that
provide specials.
That may well be true here, too, Tony. I was covered by my company's |
private medical insurance and the ward was a private one within a
large NHS teaching hospital. The specialling was caused by the
intense pressure for ICU beds, and I was often surrounded by almost as
much equipment in my room on the ward as I had been in the ICU. About
a third of the total nursing staff were from agencies rather than
hospital employees. I was specialled for a couple of days each time I
came out of the ICU, and for about a month when I came down with MRSA.
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wrmst rgrds
Robin Bignall
Hertfordshire, England |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:00 am
Post subject: Re: What is a 'liasor'? |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:29:19 +0200, "Father Ignatius"
<FatherIgnatius@ANTISPAMananzi.co.za> wrote:
| Quote: | "J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1gu7eot.bfjhqw1c9tbn9N@de-ster.xs4all.nl...
It is a standard medical specialism these day in the Netherlands,
[faintly] "specialism"?
Specialismus for Mynheer? Who knows? |
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:14 am
Post subject: Re: What is a 'liasor'? |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:44:39 +0100, Robin Bignall
<docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:09:32 GMT, Tony Cooper
tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:05:25 +0100, Robin Bignall
docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote:
In the ICU I attended, each patient had full-time nursing treatment.
Back on the ward, the same treatment would be called 'being
specialled'. Nurses would be allocated such that there was always one
in the room, 24/7. As you can imagine, with the general shortage of
trained nurses, people were specialled for the shortest time possible.
I haven't heard that term for years. Being "specialled", in US
hospitals, meant that the patient or the patient's family hired a
nurse out of their own pocket to sit with the patient. There were
nurses that hired on for special duty only. There are agencies that
provide specials.
That may well be true here, too, Tony. I was covered by my company's
private medical insurance and the ward was a private one within a
large NHS teaching hospital. The specialling was caused by the
intense pressure for ICU beds, and I was often surrounded by almost as
much equipment in my room on the ward as I had been in the ICU. About
a third of the total nursing staff were from agencies rather than
hospital employees. I was specialled for a couple of days each time I
came out of the ICU, and for about a month when I came down with MRSA.
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You misunderstand what I said a little bit. A special duty nurse
comes through an agency, but she is paid by the patient or the
patient's family. Directly. They are hired by wealthy people so the
patient has company, constant care, and special attention.
We also have agency-placed nurses, usually called "Temps", that are
hired by the hospital and supplement the regular staff. They are not
assigned to any one patient. They are placed day-to-day and may work
in five hospitals in the course of a week. Normally, the temp will
limit the number of hospitals he or she works in because they like to
know the routine. My wife did this for a year.
There's even another category: contract nurses. These are the
"gunslingers" of the nursing profession. They are hired by the
hospital for a period time (usually one year to three years) and paid
a bonus plus relocation expenses to come and work. Right now Florida
has a serious shortage of nurses, and is advertising all over the
world for contract nurses. UK and Irish nurses are very much in
demand. If there's a UK magazine for nurses, in the back will be ads
placed by US hospitals for nurses.
I had some conversations with a nurse from Dublin that had done this
in the US for six years. She'd worked in California, New York,
Colorado, and Florida.
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Tony Cooper
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Robin Bignall
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:53 pm
Post subject: Re: What is a 'liasor'? |
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 01:47:25 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:44:39 +0100, Robin Bignall
docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:09:32 GMT, Tony Cooper
tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:05:25 +0100, Robin Bignall
docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote:
In the ICU I attended, each patient had full-time nursing treatment.
Back on the ward, the same treatment would be called 'being
specialled'. Nurses would be allocated such that there was always one
in the room, 24/7. As you can imagine, with the general shortage of
trained nurses, people were specialled for the shortest time possible.
I haven't heard that term for years. Being "specialled", in US
hospitals, meant that the patient or the patient's family hired a
nurse out of their own pocket to sit with the patient. There were
nurses that hired on for special duty only. There are agencies that
provide specials.
That may well be true here, too, Tony. I was covered by my company's
private medical insurance and the ward was a private one within a
large NHS teaching hospital. The specialling was caused by the
intense pressure for ICU beds, and I was often surrounded by almost as
much equipment in my room on the ward as I had been in the ICU. About
a third of the total nursing staff were from agencies rather than
hospital employees. I was specialled for a couple of days each time I
came out of the ICU, and for about a month when I came down with MRSA.
You misunderstand what I said a little bit. A special duty nurse
comes through an agency, but she is paid by the patient or the
patient's family. Directly. They are hired by wealthy people so the
patient has company, constant care, and special attention.
In England, any nurse, from whatever source, who was providing medical |
care to a patient in hospital would have to have some sort of
agreement with the hospital to be allowed to use their facilities,
because of legal liability. Social care is a different matter, quite
separate here, and a nurse providing social care would probably not be
allowed to touch the patient or do simple things like adjusting a
drip-feed or changing a plaster (Band-Aid) without supervision. The
other thing is that there's a clear separation between NHS and private
medicine, even in NHS hospitals with private wards. In England one
does not get allocated an "NHS allowance" by paying social security
contributions. In private medicine, everything - each aspirin,
sticking plaster, bandage, emptied bed-pan (all of which would be free
in an NHS ward) - is charged for, and either the patient or his
insurance company pays. A special nurse for medical treatment would
be a line item on the hospital's bill.
| Quote: | We also have agency-placed nurses, usually called "Temps", that are
hired by the hospital and supplement the regular staff. They are not
assigned to any one patient. They are placed day-to-day and may work
in five hospitals in the course of a week. Normally, the temp will
limit the number of hospitals he or she works in because they like to
know the routine. My wife did this for a year.
There's even another category: contract nurses. These are the
"gunslingers" of the nursing profession. They are hired by the
hospital for a period time (usually one year to three years) and paid
a bonus plus relocation expenses to come and work. Right now Florida
has a serious shortage of nurses, and is advertising all over the
world for contract nurses. UK and Irish nurses are very much in
demand. If there's a UK magazine for nurses, in the back will be ads
placed by US hospitals for nurses.
I had some conversations with a nurse from Dublin that had done this
in the US for six years. She'd worked in California, New York,
Colorado, and Florida.
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We have these categories here, too. A great many nurses come from
Australia and New Zealand, and get paid to see the world (as one of
them once described her reason for being in England).
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wrmst rgrds
Robin Bignall
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J. J. Lodder
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:00 am
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<rbaniste1@shaw.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:29:19 +0200, "Father Ignatius"
FatherIgnatius@ANTISPAMananzi.co.za> wrote:
"J. J. Lodder" <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1gu7eot.bfjhqw1c9tbn9N@de-ster.xs4all.nl...
It is a standard medical specialism these day in the Netherlands,
[faintly] "specialism"?
Specialismus for Mynheer? Who knows?
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'Mynheer' is a mistake.
It should be 'Mijnheer'.
But bless you, M˙nheer would have been even worse,
Jan |
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