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Areff
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:15 am
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The Grammer Genious wrote:
| Quote: | the Omrud wrote:
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I've mentioned before that I have a minor addiction to Tootsie Roll,
which are unknown in Europe, so I always bring some home from US
visits.
Does that mean that Europeans live lives without
any Tootsie Roll Pops? They never have the
experience of sucking on the bright, hard cherry,
or orange, or chocolate candy coating until it is
so thin that you can bite down and crunch it, and
mix the sweet flavor of the crystalline candy with
the warm and chewy Tootsie Roll inside?
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I found David's use of apparently-non-countable "Tootsie Roll" jarring.
But anyway, it takes three licks of a Tootsie Roll Pop to get to the
Tootsie Roll at the center.
http://www.tootsie.com/howmany-sb.html
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Areff
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:17 am
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Sara Lorimer wrote:
| Quote: | Father Ignatius <FatherIgnatius@ANTISPAMananzi.co.za> wrote:
"The Grammer Genious" <schultzp@erols.com> wrote in message
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WERE readily available. When we lived in Spain, I
would always ask visitors from the states to bring
some of those big fat crunchy sourdough pretzels.
I'm not getting these pretzel references. Around here, pretzels are
famous for going stale within hours of being baked.
There are at least two kinds of pretzels. Large, fresh ones go stale
quickly, but there are smaller, more cracker-like ones that keep
forever.
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I call the first kind "New York pretzels". (The kind they sell on the
street today aren't as good as they were years ago, of course.) Properly
made, they should be not unlike a bagel in texture.
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Skitt
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:42 am
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Areff wrote:
| Quote: | Sara Lorimer wrote:
There are at least two kinds of pretzels. Large, fresh ones go stale
quickly, but there are smaller, more cracker-like ones that keep
forever.
I call the first kind "New York pretzels". (The kind they sell on the
street today aren't as good as they were years ago, of course.)
Properly made, they should be not unlike a bagel in texture.
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The first kind is the kind that were sold in Riga (far from New York) when I
was a child (a long time ago). Delicious. They were called a term that
translates to "water pretzel", and yes, they were similar to bagels in
texture.
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Aaron Davies
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:26 am
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The Grammer Genious <schultzp@erols.com> wrote:
| Quote: | the Omrud wrote:
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I've mentioned before that I have a minor addiction to Tootsie Roll,
which are unknown in Europe, so I always bring some home from US
visits.
Does that mean that Europeans live lives without
any Tootsie Roll Pops? They never have the
experience of sucking on the bright, hard cherry,
or orange, or chocolate candy coating until it is
so thin that you can bite down and crunch it, and
mix the sweet flavor of the crystalline candy with
the warm and chewy Tootsie Roll inside?
No wonder they're so crabby.
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Whereas for us, it comes from cutting up the insides of our mouths on
razor-sharp lollipop pieces.
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Aaron Davies
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"I don't know if it's real or not but it is a myth."
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:33 am
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On 19 Mar 2005, the Omrud wrote
| Quote: | I've mentioned before that I have a minor addiction to Tootsie
Roll, which are unknown in Europe, so I always bring some home
from US visits.
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Turtles, of which I only ever ate the Canadian ones. (I assume they're
in the US, and the same, but maybe not.)
I like Turtles, and have only very occasionally seen them here in the
UK as exotic imports around Christmastime. Alas.
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Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 22 years.
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mUs1Ka
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:07 am
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| Quote: | Areff wrote:
Sara Lorimer wrote:
There are at least two kinds of pretzels. Large, fresh ones go stale
quickly, but there are smaller, more cracker-like ones that keep
forever.
I call the first kind "New York pretzels". (The kind they sell on
the street today aren't as good as they were years ago, of course.)
Properly made, they should be not unlike a bagel in texture.
I call those Munich pretzels. It was the only place I have eaten them. I |
went to watch Werder Bremen play Bayern Muenchen and the pretzels were being
sold outside the stadium, after the match.
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:14 am
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Areff had it:
| Quote: | The Grammer Genious wrote:
the Omrud wrote:
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I've mentioned before that I have a minor addiction to Tootsie Roll,
which are unknown in Europe, so I always bring some home from US
visits.
Does that mean that Europeans live lives without
any Tootsie Roll Pops? They never have the
experience of sucking on the bright, hard cherry,
or orange, or chocolate candy coating until it is
so thin that you can bite down and crunch it, and
mix the sweet flavor of the crystalline candy with
the warm and chewy Tootsie Roll inside?
I found David's use of apparently-non-countable "Tootsie Roll" jarring.
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Really? How would you say "A large bag of Tootsie Roll"? Rolls?
I'm not struck on the Pops - I much prefer the Roll. Rolls.
Can anybody find a copy of the Tootsie Roll advert which used to be
printed inside the back cover of various Marvel comics in the 60s?
I've searched but I can't find it. It went something like "Bar
Candy? Phooey. Bag Candy? Phooey."
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Michael Nitabach
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:19 am
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CyberCypher <cybercypher@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote in
news:Xns961EC0AD9698Fcctxt2002@130.133.1.4:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs wrote on 19 Mar 2005:
An article in http://www.emigrant.ie/ , a highly entertaining
site, discussed the difficulty of finding certain items in
Ireland that are readily obtainable in the US. Since one of the
secondary purposes of AUE is to discuss food, the following
snippet listing what one traveller brought back may be germane. I
wonder how difficult it is to find these items in the UK.
Here's a fairly comprehensive list of what she got, and I've
accompanied this column with a photo for added proof, lest you
have any doubts. In no specific order, she brought home (to
Ireland): Levolor light filtering, custom sized window shades;
(New!) Nestl? Toll House candy bars; Nabisco Chewy Chips Ahoy;
Hormel Pepperoni; Keebler Rainbow Chips Deluxe; Nyquil; Kellogg's
Pop-tarts (brown sugar, cinnamon); Nestl?hot cocoa mix; Ray's New
York Bagels (plain, onion, cinnamon/raisin); Smucker's jelly
beans; Mennen Speed Stick anti-perspirant; black jeans; Pillsbury
Brownie Mix; assorted Betty Crocker Chocolate Chip Cookie mixes
and Brownie mixes; Hershey's Mini Robin Eggs; assorted Betty
Crocker Bisquick Complete mixes; Nestl? Coffee-Mate (French
Vanilla); medium white plain corn meal; Chef Boyardee Cheese
Pizza mix and (New!) Deep Dish Meals mix; and, last but not
least, a Safety Gate Hook & Eye.
Jeez. The only thing I'd want on that list might be Ray's New York
bagels, assuming that they're actually made and sold fresh in New
York instead of made in some factory in Kansas, frozen, and then
shipped around the USA with a misleading label. Corn meal might be
another.
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guaranteed not to be made in New York. As a New Yorker, I can tell
you this with confidence.
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:28 am
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the Omrud had it:
| Quote: | Areff had it:
The Grammer Genious wrote:
the Omrud wrote:
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I've mentioned before that I have a minor addiction to Tootsie Roll,
which are unknown in Europe, so I always bring some home from US
visits.
Does that mean that Europeans live lives without
any Tootsie Roll Pops? They never have the
experience of sucking on the bright, hard cherry,
or orange, or chocolate candy coating until it is
so thin that you can bite down and crunch it, and
mix the sweet flavor of the crystalline candy with
the warm and chewy Tootsie Roll inside?
I found David's use of apparently-non-countable "Tootsie Roll" jarring.
Really? How would you say "A large bag of Tootsie Roll"? Rolls?
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Although I see now that I should have said "I have a minor addiction
to Tootsie Roll, which *is* unknown in Europe". Is that better?
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don groves
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:40 am
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In article <3a3ffoF65jdjgU4@individual.net>, Areff at
me@privacy.net hath writ:
| Quote: | Richard Chambers wrote:
Charles Riggs wrote
An article in http://www.emigrant.ie/ , a highly entertaining site,
discussed the difficulty of finding certain items in Ireland that are
readily obtainable in the US. Since one of the secondary purposes of
AUE is to discuss food, the following snippet listing what one
traveller brought back may be germane. I wonder how difficult it is to
find these items in the UK.
Here's a fairly comprehensive list of what she got, and I've
accompanied this column with a photo for added proof, lest you have
any doubts. In no specific order, she brought home (to Ireland):
Levolor light filtering, custom sized window shades; (New!) Nestlé
Toll House candy bars; Nabisco Chewy Chips Ahoy; Hormel Pepperoni;
Keebler Rainbow Chips Deluxe; Nyquil; Kellogg's Pop-tarts (brown
sugar, cinnamon);
Kelloggs do some sort of cinnamon flavoured breakfast cereal, but I have
never been sufficiently interested to investigate further.
Pop-Tarts aren't a breakfast cereal. They're what Ray Wise would call
"toaster pastries". Post-Suez invention, I believe; nasty stuff. Stick
with traditional BrE cuisine like toasted white bread with butter and
marmalade deep fried in lard.
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Did Elvis know about this?
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don groves
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:38 am
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In article <Xns961EBA631BC81mnitabachacedslcom@216.196.97.140>,
Michael Nitabach at mnitabach@acedsl.com hath writ:
| Quote: | CyberCypher <cybercypher@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote in
news:Xns961EC0AD9698Fcctxt2002@130.133.1.4:
Charles Riggs wrote on 19 Mar 2005:
An article in http://www.emigrant.ie/ , a highly entertaining
site, discussed the difficulty of finding certain items in
Ireland that are readily obtainable in the US. Since one of the
secondary purposes of AUE is to discuss food, the following
snippet listing what one traveller brought back may be germane. I
wonder how difficult it is to find these items in the UK.
Here's a fairly comprehensive list of what she got, and I've
accompanied this column with a photo for added proof, lest you
have any doubts. In no specific order, she brought home (to
Ireland): Levolor light filtering, custom sized window shades;
(New!) Nestl? Toll House candy bars; Nabisco Chewy Chips Ahoy;
Hormel Pepperoni; Keebler Rainbow Chips Deluxe; Nyquil; Kellogg's
Pop-tarts (brown sugar, cinnamon); Nestl?hot cocoa mix; Ray's New
York Bagels (plain, onion, cinnamon/raisin); Smucker's jelly
beans; Mennen Speed Stick anti-perspirant; black jeans; Pillsbury
Brownie Mix; assorted Betty Crocker Chocolate Chip Cookie mixes
and Brownie mixes; Hershey's Mini Robin Eggs; assorted Betty
Crocker Bisquick Complete mixes; Nestl? Coffee-Mate (French
Vanilla); medium white plain corn meal; Chef Boyardee Cheese
Pizza mix and (New!) Deep Dish Meals mix; and, last but not
least, a Safety Gate Hook & Eye.
Jeez. The only thing I'd want on that list might be Ray's New York
bagels, assuming that they're actually made and sold fresh in New
York instead of made in some factory in Kansas, frozen, and then
shipped around the USA with a misleading label. Corn meal might be
another.
Any food sold under a brand with "New York" in it is pretty much
guaranteed not to be made in New York. As a New Yorker, I can tell
you this with confidence.
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Sorry, but "New York Bagel Boys" makes the real thing. "Noah's
New York Bagels" are right up there too, judging from the one I
just finished eating not two minutes ago.
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The Grammer Genious
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:51 am
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Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
| Quote: | Turtles, of which I only ever ate the Canadian ones. (I assume they're
in the US, and the same, but maybe not.)
I like Turtles, and have only very occasionally seen them here in the
UK as exotic imports around Christmastime. Alas.
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Real turtles are made in the kitchen, and they
actually look like turtles if you make them right,
like my mom did.
\\P. Schultz |
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The Grammer Genious
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:53 am
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the Omrud wrote:
| Quote: | Areff had it:
I found David's use of apparently-non-countable "Tootsie Roll" jarring.
Really? How would you say "A large bag of Tootsie Roll"? <...
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I wouldn't say that because it makes no sense.
It's like saying "a large bag of lollipop."
\\P. Schultz |
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Michael Nitabach
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:22 am
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don groves <dgroves@domain.net (see sig for domain)> wrote in
news:MPG.1ca665dd6acc5db1989a12@news.web-ster.com:
| Quote: | In article <Xns961EBA631BC81mnitabachacedslcom@216.196.97.140>,
Michael Nitabach at mnitabach@acedsl.com hath writ:
CyberCypher <cybercypher@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote in
news:Xns961EC0AD9698Fcctxt2002@130.133.1.4:
Charles Riggs wrote on 19 Mar 2005:
An article in http://www.emigrant.ie/ , a highly entertaining
site, discussed the difficulty of finding certain items in
Ireland that are readily obtainable in the US. Since one of the
secondary purposes of AUE is to discuss food, the following
snippet listing what one traveller brought back may be germane.
I
wonder how difficult it is to find these items in the UK.
Here's a fairly comprehensive list of what she got, and I've
accompanied this column with a photo for added proof, lest you
have any doubts. In no specific order, she brought home (to
Ireland): Levolor light filtering, custom sized window shades;
(New!) Nestl? Toll House candy bars; Nabisco Chewy Chips Ahoy;
Hormel Pepperoni; Keebler Rainbow Chips Deluxe; Nyquil;
Kellogg's
Pop-tarts (brown sugar, cinnamon); Nestl?hot cocoa mix; Ray's
New
York Bagels (plain, onion, cinnamon/raisin); Smucker's jelly
beans; Mennen Speed Stick anti-perspirant; black jeans;
Pillsbury
Brownie Mix; assorted Betty Crocker Chocolate Chip Cookie mixes
and Brownie mixes; Hershey's Mini Robin Eggs; assorted Betty
Crocker Bisquick Complete mixes; Nestl? Coffee-Mate (French
Vanilla); medium white plain corn meal; Chef Boyardee Cheese
Pizza mix and (New!) Deep Dish Meals mix; and, last but not
least, a Safety Gate Hook & Eye.
Jeez. The only thing I'd want on that list might be Ray's New
York
bagels, assuming that they're actually made and sold fresh in
New
York instead of made in some factory in Kansas, frozen, and then
shipped around the USA with a misleading label. Corn meal might
be
another.
Any food sold under a brand with "New York" in it is pretty much
guaranteed not to be made in New York. As a New Yorker, I can tell
you this with confidence.
Sorry, but "New York Bagel Boys" makes the real thing. "Noah's
New York Bagels" are right up there too, judging from the one I
just finished eating not two minutes ago.
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Please read my post again.
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CyberCypher
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:22 am
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don groves wrote on 20 Mar 2005:
| Quote: | Michael Nitabach at mnitabach@acedsl.com hath writ:
[...]
Any food sold under a brand with "New York" in it is pretty much
guaranteed not to be made in New York. As a New Yorker, I can tell
you this with confidence.
Sorry, but "New York Bagel Boys" makes the real thing. "Noah's
New York Bagels" are right up there too, judging from the one I
just finished eating not two minutes ago.
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As much as I love Noah's bagels (Greenbrae store, Marin County), I
gotta say that they aren't real New York City bagels. They're much too
soft. But delicious, delicious, delicious! I'd rather have a Noah's's
bagel almost any day of the week. Down in LA there was I 'n' Joy
Bagels, much more like NYC bagels than Noah's's. Delicious! But that
was 27 years ago.
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Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
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