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Dr Robin Bignall
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Testicles, Twats and Charlotte Green |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:59:44 +0800, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au>
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| Quote: | Matthew Huntbach wrote:
In uk.culture.language.english David <david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote:
In article <2m4hd9Fj0mf8U2@uni-berlin.de>,
Matti Lamprhey <matti-nospam@totally-official.com> wrote:
"Matthew Huntbach" <mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote...
Is "twat" now *ever* used in its original meaning except in a
"ha-ha, did you know what that word *really* means?" context. If
not (and I have never heard or seen it so used) doesn't that mean
it has lost its original meaning and it's silly to claim it still
has it?
It's retained its true believers, as you'll see if you google
something like "up her twat".
My introduction to the word was as an eleven year old schoolboy who,
having a great purity of soul, misunderstood it to be a form of the
word "twit". Alas, neither my father nor mother demonstrated a similar
purity of soul that evening when I used the word in reference to dear
old pater.
I'm not sure if I'm up to Matti's suggestion to trawl pornographic websites
("honestly, it was just a bit of research into linguistics ..."), but whereas
"cunt" retains a strong usage to mean female genitalia as well as its
derived usage as a foolish/unpleasant etc person, I've never come across
"twat" used in any way except to refer to a person or for someone to be say
"Ah, but do you know what that word really means?". Are there other parts of
the world where it retains active usage in its original sense?
I remember a number of rugby songs, learned in my youth in England, in
which twat was used solely for vulva. Of course, they also used the
little used 'quim' as well.
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Which was 'quam' in my dialect.
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wrmst rgrds
Robin Bignall
Hertfordshire
England
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Testicles, Twats and Charlotte Green |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:26:47 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com>
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I remember a number of rugby songs, learned in my youth in England, in
which twat was used solely for vulva. Of course, they also used the
little used 'quim' as well.
Which was 'quam' in my dialect.
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But that wouldn't rhyme.
I heard the following once - just once.
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There was a young lady from Lymm
who had an enormous quim
it wasn't the size
that attracted the flies
but the crystalline crust round the rim.
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Peter Duncanson
UK
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Molly Mockford
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:54 am
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At 08:59:44 on Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au>
wrote in <cdkf3l$9ks$2@enyo.uwa.edu.au>:
| Quote: | Of course, they also used the little used 'quim' as well.
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Which, in Portuguese, is apparently pronounced "king". I learned that
snippetof information from "Speaker for the Dead" by Orson Scott Card.
It's a shame that he didn't learn, before he gave that name to a male
character, what the word actually meant in English.
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Molly Mockford
I think I've been too long on my own, but the little green goblin that
lives under the sink says I'm OK - and he's never wrong, so I must be!
(My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.)
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:23 am
Post subject: Re: Testicles, Twats and Charlotte Green |
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Charles Riggs <chriggs@eircom.net> wrote in message news:<hm8sf0ticl11q36a25potficavns0emc7b@4ax.com>...
| Quote: | On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:23:11 +0100, "Matti Lamprhey"
matti-nospam@totally-official.com> wrote:
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It's retained its true believers, as you'll see if you google something
like "up her twat".
Such a person would be warping the actual meaning of the word. It
refers to the vulva, not to the vagina.
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Would you -- I merely ask for information -- on similar grounds
deprecate the formula 'down the plug-hole'?
Mike. |
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Dr Robin Bignall
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:32 am
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson
<mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:26:47 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com
wrote:
I remember a number of rugby songs, learned in my youth in England, in
which twat was used solely for vulva. Of course, they also used the
little used 'quim' as well.
Which was 'quam' in my dialect.
But that wouldn't rhyme.
Rhymes are easy. Here's one I just made up. |
There was a young lady from Ham
Who had an enormous quam.
A horse with its rider
Could get up inside her,
Together with old uncle Sam.
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wrmst rgrds
Robin Bignall
Hertfordshire
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Glenn Knickerbocker
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:19 am
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:31:45 +0100, Charles Riggs wrote:
| Quote: | matti-nospam@totally-official.com> wrote:
"Matthew Huntbach" <mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote...
Is "twat" now *ever* used in its original meaning
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In the U.S., I don't recall hearing it with any *other* meaning! It's
used figuratively in the same way as "dick," but always with clear
anatomical reference.
| Quote: | It's retained its true believers, as you'll see if you google something
like "up her twat".
Such a person would be warping the actual meaning of the word. It
refers to the vulva, not to the vagina.
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Gotta get up one to get to the other, no?
¬R Around here, the fun is always filled with blanks.
http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/arkville.html --Theresa Willis |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:29 pm
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On 21 Jul 2004 14:23:47 -0700, mike_lyle_uk@yahoo.co.uk (Mike Lyle)
wrote:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs <chriggs@eircom.net> wrote in message news:<hm8sf0ticl11q36a25potficavns0emc7b@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:23:11 +0100, "Matti Lamprhey"
matti-nospam@totally-official.com> wrote:
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It's retained its true believers, as you'll see if you google something
like "up her twat".
Such a person would be warping the actual meaning of the word. It
refers to the vulva, not to the vagina.
Would you -- I merely ask for information -- on similar grounds
deprecate the formula 'down the plug-hole'?
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I'm not familiar with that formula. I do know one can't go up, in the
usual sense of 'up', a woman's vulva, as Matti was suggesting.
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Charles Riggs |
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Matti Lamprhey
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:48 pm
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"Charles Riggs" <chriggs@eircom.net> wrote...
| Quote: | mike_lyle_uk@yahoo.co.uk (Mike Lyle) wrote:
Charles Riggs <chriggs@eircom.net> wrote...
"Matti Lamprhey" <matti-nospam@totally-official.com> wrote:
[...]
It's retained its true believers, as you'll see if you google
something like "up her twat".
Such a person would be warping the actual meaning of the word. It
refers to the vulva, not to the vagina.
Would you -- I merely ask for information -- on similar grounds
deprecate the formula 'down the plug-hole'?
I'm not familiar with that formula. I do know one can't go up, in the
usual sense of 'up', a woman's vulva, as Matti was suggesting.
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Just consider the parallels between plughole & vulva and vagina &
waste-pipe.
In Britain we refer to things "going down the plughole", rarely "down
the wastepipe", even though the latter might be the more accurate.
Matti |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:49 pm
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:19:20 -0400, Glenn Knickerbocker
<NotR@bestweb.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:31:45 +0100, Charles Riggs wrote:
matti-nospam@totally-official.com> wrote:
"Matthew Huntbach" <mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote...
Is "twat" now *ever* used in its original meaning
In the U.S., I don't recall hearing it with any *other* meaning! It's
used figuratively in the same way as "dick," but always with clear
anatomical reference.
It's retained its true believers, as you'll see if you google something
like "up her twat".
Such a person would be warping the actual meaning of the word. It
refers to the vulva, not to the vagina.
Gotta get up one to get to the other, no?
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That somewhat depends on the construction details of the woman in
question. There is a good deal of variety in that area of the anatomy.
We've lost Matti altogether by now, I suspect.
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Charles Riggs |
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Testicles, Twats and Charlotte Green |
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:32:31 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com>
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| Quote: | On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:36:03 +0100, Peter Duncanson
mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:26:47 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com
wrote:
I remember a number of rugby songs, learned in my youth in England, in
which twat was used solely for vulva. Of course, they also used the
little used 'quim' as well.
Which was 'quam' in my dialect.
But that wouldn't rhyme.
Rhymes are easy. Here's one I just made up.
There was a young lady from Ham
Who had an enormous quam.
A horse with its rider
Could get up inside her,
Together with old uncle Sam.
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Somewhat crowded, though.
--
Peter Duncanson
UK
(posting from u.c.l.e) |
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