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[Martin Ambuhl]

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Some people in newsgroup posts are beginning to cite matter-of-factly
the discovery by rexcurry.net that the pledge of allegiance was the
origin of the salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge1.html

For more information on the amazing discovery that the straight arm
Nazi salute originated in the US as part of the Pledge of Allegiance
and only later spread to Germany see
http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html

Those posters and no one can point to any other source that made that
discovery or that observation other than sources that repeated the info
from rexcurry.net

It has been interesting to see how long it would take for people to
accept the discoveries of rexcurry.net and to repeat it as if it were
old knowledge. It is fascinating to see that it is now happening here
in these groups.

It is similar to another great history-making and news-breaking
development: Some people in newsgroup posts are beginning to cite
matter-of-factly the discovery by rexcurry.net that the swastika was
intertwined "S" shapes for "socialism."

Here is a recent quote from a post about the swastika "in fact it was
generally regarded as interlinked stylised 'S' shapes." Amazing! Of
course, the fact that the symbol of the National Socialist German
Workers' Party was interlinked stylized "S" shapes was a history-making
news-breaking discovery of rexcurry.net at
http://rexcurry.net/swastikanews.html

That poster and no one can point to any other source that made that
discovery or that observation other than sources that repeated the info
from rexcurry.net

It has been interesting to see how long it would take for people to
accept the discovery of rexcurry.net and to repeat it as if it were old
knowledge. It is fascinating to see that it is now happening here in
these groups.

[Martin Ambuhl]

rexy@ij.net wrote:

[Guest]

Some people in newsgroup posts are beginning to cite matter-of-factly
the discovery by rexcurry.net that the pledge of allegiance was the
origin of the salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge1.html

For more information on the amazing discovery that the straight arm
Nazi salute originated in the US as part of the Pledge of Allegiance
and only later spread to Germany see
http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html

Those posters and no one can point to any other source that made that
discovery or that observation other than sources that repeated the info
from rexcurry.net

It has been interesting to see how long it would take for people to
accept the discoveries of rexcurry.net and to repeat it as if it were
old knowledge. It is fascinating to see that it is now happening here
in these groups.

It is similar to another great history-making and news-breaking
development: Some people in newsgroup posts are beginning to cite
matter-of-factly the discovery by rexcurry.net that the swastika was
intertwined "S" shapes for "socialism."

Here is a recent quote from a post about the swastika "in fact it was
generally regarded as interlinked stylised 'S' shapes." Amazing! Of
course, the fact that the symbol of the National Socialist German
Workers' Party was interlinked stylized "S" shapes was a history-making
news-breaking discovery of rexcurry.net at
http://rexcurry.net/swastikanews.html

That poster and no one can point to any other source that made that
discovery or that observation other than sources that repeated the info
from rexcurry.net

It has been interesting to see how long it would take for people to
accept the discovery of rexcurry.net and to repeat it as if it were old
knowledge. It is fascinating to see that it is now happening here in
these groups.

[Robert Lieblich]

R J Valentine wrote:

[R J Valentine]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:53:57 -0500 Robert Lieblich <Robert.Lieblich@verizon.net> wrote:

} R J Valentine wrote:
}>
}> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:20:01 GMT Martin Ambuhl <mambuhl@earthlink.net> wrote:
}> ...
}> } It is interesting only as an experiment in the spread of lies through
}> } modern technology.
}>
}> Brother Martin argues with a bot: BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
}
} At least the bot isn't winning.

That's because, as you well know, There Is Much To Be Learned From Brother
Martin.

--
R. J. Valentine <mailto:rj@smart.net>
WINTSTABCLA

[R J Valentine]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:20:01 GMT Martin Ambuhl <mambuhl@earthlink.net> wrote:
....
} It is interesting only as an experiment in the spread of lies through
} modern technology.

Brother Martin argues with a bot: BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

--
R. J. Valentine <mailto:rj@smart.net>

[Wayne Brown]

Martin Ambuhl wrote:

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[Mickwick]

In alt.usage.english, Wayne Brown wrote:

[...]

[Guest]

The "Olympic salute" myth has been busted in a new discovery. The
salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis)
originated from the military salute and from the original USA flag
pledge (as written by a socialist), and not from ancient Rome, as
discovered by the journalist Rex Curry. The "Roman salute" myth was
reinforced by the "Olympic salute" that developed after the USA's
pledge of allegiance and early fictional Roman scenes in film.
http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html

The first evidence of the "Olympic salute" myth is in an Olympic poster
from 1924 when the games were in Paris.
http://rexcurry.net/olympic-salute1924.jpg

The 1924 poster shows semi-naked athletes, a reminder of Antiquity,
making the Olympic salute. In the background, the flag of the French
Republic. In the foreground, palm leaves, symbols of victory.

The next evidence in an Olympic poster for 1936 in Berlin.
http://rexcurry.net/olympic-salute1936.jpg

The 1936 poster features the Quadriga from the Brandenburg Gate, a
landmark of the city of Berlin. In the background is the figure of a
wreathed victor, his arm raised in the salute.

In the 1936 poster, the salute is not clear because only part of the
arm is shown.

There are disputes about whether the Olympic salute differed from the
salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party and the 1936
poster seems designed to obscure the issue, and it added to the debate.

No official poster was made for the first games, the 1896 Olympic
Games, in Athens. However, the cover page of the official report is
often used to refer to the Games of the I Olympiad and has the
inscription "776-1896."

The second modern Olympics were in Paris.

One claim holds that the Olympic salute was used at the 1912 Stockholm
games, but no further evidence has been found yet.

The Olympic Games were riginally held in ancient Greece. They were
revived by a French nobleman, Pierre Frèdy, Baron de Coubertin in 1896
and held every fourth year, with the exception of the years during the
World Wars.

The Games gradually lost in importance as the Romans gained power in
Greece. When Christianity became the official religion of the Roman
Empire, the Olympic Games were seen as a "pagan" festival threatening
Christian hegemony, and in 393 the emperor Theodosius outlawed the
Olympics, ending a thousand year period of Olympic Games.

The interest in reviving the Olympics grew when the ruins of ancient
Olympia were uncovered by German archaeologists in the mid-19th
century.

At the same time, Pierre, Baron de Coubertin searched for a reason for
the French defeat in the Franco-Prussian War (1870-1871). He thought
the reason was that the French had not received proper physical
education, and sought to improve this. Coubertin also thought of a way
to bring nations closer together, to have the youth of the world
compete in sports, rather than fight in war. In his eyes, the revival
of the Olympic Games would achieve both of these goals.

In a congress at the Sorbonne university in Paris held from June 16 to
June 23, 1894 he presented his ideas to an international audience.

At the 1936 Olympic games in Germany the so called "Greco-Roman" salute
caused controversy and reinforced the "Roman salute" myth. The
controversy involved athletes in countries who did not want to perform
the Olympic salute upon entering the stadium because it would be
misunderstood as a salute to Hitler, who was present. Probably every
article ever written about the Olympic salute was reviewed in research
for this article. In every article there was no author who was aware
of that the straight-arm salute was the prevailing salute for the
pledge of allegiance in the USA and there was no author who was aware
of the historic discovery (by the journalist Rex Curry) that the pledge
of allegiance was the origin of the Olympic salute and the salute of
the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

In many respects, the winter games were very much of a test scenario
for the summer games in Berlin just a short five months away. The 1936
Olympics are well-known to film lovers mostly because of the towering
achievement of Leni Riefenstahl, the film director.

There appears to have been a recent example of the Olympic salute. The
Olympic salute took place on March 13, 2004 in Washington, D.C., during
a Hellenic Heritage Achievement and National Public Service Awards
Presentation gala sponsored by the Washington-based American Hellenic
Institute (AHI). The VOA Greek Service produced a 2 hour 30 minute
live radio program from the Washington, D.C. event location. Veteran
journalist Mr. George Bistis anchored the broadcast, entitled "Honoring
the 2004 Athens Games," and Ms. Spyridonakou interviewed several of the
attendees.

[Wood Avens]

On 8 Apr 2005 05:01:37 -0700, rexy@ij.net wrote:

[nancy13g]

Wood Avens wrote:

[Guest]

Thanks for the comments. News accounts indicate that the USA's
athletes did not use the Olympic salute. Nevertheless, when Jesse Owens
competed in the 1936 Olympics in Germany, his neighbors attended
segregated government schools where they saluted the flag with the Nazi
salute. The U.S. practice of official racism and segregation in
government schools even outlasted the horrid Nazi Party, into the
1960's and beyond. The salute of the National Socialist German
Workers' Party (Nazis) and the "Olympic salute" originated in the USA
from the military salute and from the original USA flag pledge (as
written by a socialist), and not from ancient Rome, as discovered
recently. http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html
The "Roman salute" myth was reinforced by the "Olympic salute" that
developed after the USA's pledge of allegiance and early fictional
Roman scenes in film.