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David
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

In article <1ggp6uz.ea2zi51kk58b6N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:
Quote:
David wrote:

Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part of
the world?

I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or something
else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?

Perhaps the poetry in your soul is of a different nature?

Yes, it does sound reasonable. A light shower might not diminish the
light levels (much) but a heavy shower or rain will almost certainly
make the sky darker and with it, the room. Even in summer, it might
become necessary to turn on the light.


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Laura F Spira
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

David wrote:
Quote:
In article <1ggp6uz.ea2zi51kk58b6N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:

David wrote:


Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part
of the world?


I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or
something else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?


Perhaps the poetry in your soul is of a different nature?

Yes, it does sound reasonable. A light shower might not diminish the
light levels (much) but a heavy shower or rain will almost certainly
make the sky darker and with it, the room. Even in summer, it might
become necessary to turn on the light.



Our dining room was certainly darkened by heavy rain while we were
having lunch but I think the expression is rather florid.

The quoted sentence was:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in the
rain-darkened room."

I'd like to know how a pen can "gleam smugly".

I note that the author is one Anthea Turner. Is this the same failed
celebrity who presented Blue Peter and the Lottery?

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Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
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Tony Cooper
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:41:09 +0100, Laura F Spira
<laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
David wrote:
In article <1ggp6uz.ea2zi51kk58b6N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:

David wrote:


Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part
of the world?


I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or
something else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?


Perhaps the poetry in your soul is of a different nature?

Yes, it does sound reasonable. A light shower might not diminish the
light levels (much) but a heavy shower or rain will almost certainly
make the sky darker and with it, the room. Even in summer, it might
become necessary to turn on the light.



Our dining room was certainly darkened by heavy rain while we were
having lunch but I think the expression is rather florid.

The quoted sentence was:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in the
rain-darkened room."

I'd like to know how a pen can "gleam smugly".

The pen is a publicity hound, and has been getting a lot of ink.

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Laura F Spira
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

Tony Cooper wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:41:09 +0100, Laura F Spira
laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:


David wrote:

In article <1ggp6uz.ea2zi51kk58b6N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:


David wrote:


Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part
of the world?

I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or
something else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?


Perhaps the poetry in your soul is of a different nature?

Yes, it does sound reasonable. A light shower might not diminish the
light levels (much) but a heavy shower or rain will almost certainly
make the sky darker and with it, the room. Even in summer, it might
become necessary to turn on the light.



Our dining room was certainly darkened by heavy rain while we were
having lunch but I think the expression is rather florid.

The quoted sentence was:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in the
rain-darkened room."

I'd like to know how a pen can "gleam smugly".


The pen is a publicity hound, and has been getting a lot of ink.



I don't know what that means but I'm impressed by the speed of your reply.

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Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
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Tony Cooper
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:43:48 +0100, Laura F Spira
<laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:41:09 +0100, Laura F Spira
laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:


David wrote:

In article <1ggp6uz.ea2zi51kk58b6N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:


David wrote:


Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part
of the world?

I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or
something else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?


Perhaps the poetry in your soul is of a different nature?

Yes, it does sound reasonable. A light shower might not diminish the
light levels (much) but a heavy shower or rain will almost certainly
make the sky darker and with it, the room. Even in summer, it might
become necessary to turn on the light.



Our dining room was certainly darkened by heavy rain while we were
having lunch but I think the expression is rather florid.

The quoted sentence was:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in the
rain-darkened room."

I'd like to know how a pen can "gleam smugly".


The pen is a publicity hound, and has been getting a lot of ink.



I don't know what that means but I'm impressed by the speed of your reply.

Didn't know the phrase was pondially-challenged. "Getting a lot of
ink" means getting a lot of attention in the newspapers and magazines.
A film star, or other "personality" that tries to get a lot of media
attention would be a "publicity hound".

David Beckham has been getting a lot of ink over here.
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David
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

In article <40EFF1F5.1030404@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk>, Laura F
Spira <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
Our dining room was certainly darkened by heavy rain while we were
having lunch but I think the expression is rather florid.

The quoted sentence was:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in
the rain-darkened room."

I'd like to know how a pen can "gleam smugly".

Something to do with poetic licentiousness?

Quote:
I note that the author is one Anthea Turner. Is this the same failed
celebrity who presented Blue Peter and the Lottery?

I've no idea since I've never watched either.

Book now returned to local library and its further removal is not
recommended, except for disposal.


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Skitt
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

Laura F Spira wrote:

Quote:
Our dining room was certainly darkened by heavy rain while we were
having lunch but I think the expression is rather florid.

The quoted sentence was:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in
the rain-darkened room."

I'd like to know how a pen can "gleam smugly".

Maybe it was one of those that glow in the dark. Smugly.
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www.geocities.com/opus731/
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Peter Duncanson
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:41:09 +0100, Laura F Spira
<laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:

I note that the author is one Anthea Turner. Is this the same failed
celebrity who presented Blue Peter and the Lottery?

When I saw the first mention of Anthea[1] Turner I googled and amazoned.

There appear to be two persons of the same name. The "failed celebrity" [2]
seems to work with a ghost writer or co writer. The other seems to be a
'proper' writer.

[1] Oh Joy! The spellchecker suggested "anathema".
[2] If a person is celebrated for being a failed celebrity, she is still a
celebrity of a sort, isn't she?

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Peter Duncanson
UK
(posting from u.c.l.e)
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Robert Bannister
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

Sara Lorimer wrote:
Quote:
David wrote:


In article <1ggnx6t.10mdav2fhsoy0N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:

David wrote, in part:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in
the rain-darkened room.

What's a rain-darkened room? Has it been flooded?

Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part of the
world?


I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more than
it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or something else
that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does "rain-darkened room"
sound reasonable to you?

It sounds nice, but, as you say, it doesn't really mean a great deal. A

rain-darkened landscape I can imagine. It's not the rain that darkens
the room, but the clouds.

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Rob Bannister
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John Dean
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

Sara Lorimer wrote:
Quote:
David wrote:

In article <1ggnx6t.10mdav2fhsoy0N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:
David wrote, in part:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in
the rain-darkened room.

What's a rain-darkened room? Has it been flooded?

Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part of
the world?

I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or something
else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?

How are you with wine-dark sea? scrotum-tightening sea?
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John Dean
Oxford
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Robert Bannister
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

John Dean wrote:
Quote:
Sara Lorimer wrote:

David wrote:


In article <1ggnx6t.10mdav2fhsoy0N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:

David wrote, in part:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in
the rain-darkened room.

What's a rain-darkened room? Has it been flooded?

Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part of
the world?

I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or something
else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?


How are you with wine-dark sea? scrotum-tightening sea?

Fine, but I wouldn't be happy with 'wine-dark' or 'storm-dark' ship's
cabin, and that's the problem I had with 'rain-darkened room'. I love
'rain-darkened landscape', but find it hard to extend that to the room.

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Rob Bannister
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Sara Lorimer
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

Robert Bannister wrote:

Quote:
John Dean wrote:
Sara Lorimer wrote:

I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or something
else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?


How are you with wine-dark sea? scrotum-tightening sea?

Fine, but I wouldn't be happy with 'wine-dark' or 'storm-dark' ship's
cabin, and that's the problem I had with 'rain-darkened room'. I love
'rain-darkened landscape', but find it hard to extend that to the room.

Me too. (Well, he asked.)

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Molly Mockford
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

At 08:03:07 on Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au>
wrote in <ccskdm$k2b$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>:

Quote:
John Dean wrote:
Sara Lorimer wrote:

David wrote:


In article <1ggnx6t.10mdav2fhsoy0N%sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu>,
Sara Lorimer <sl560_delete_this_@columbia.edu> wrote:

David wrote, in part:

"Sonia laid the pen down on the counter, where it gleamed smugly in
the rain-darkened room.

What's a rain-darkened room? Has it been flooded?

Doubt it. Don't the light get dimmer when it rains in your part of
the world?

I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or something
else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?
How are you with wine-dark sea? scrotum-tightening sea?

Fine, but I wouldn't be happy with 'wine-dark' or 'storm-dark' ship's
cabin, and that's the problem I had with 'rain-darkened room'. I love
'rain-darkened landscape', but find it hard to extend that to the room.

Perhaps somebody has left the windows open.
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Molly Mockford
I think I've been too long on my own, but the little green goblin that
lives under the sink says I'm OK - and he's never wrong, so I must be!
(My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.)
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David
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

In article <Gv95jtdGkj8AFwp9@molly.mockford>, Molly Mockford
<nospamnobody@mollymockford.me.uk> wrote:
Quote:
At 08:03:07 on Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au
wrote in <ccskdm$k2b$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>:

John Dean wrote:
How are you with wine-dark sea? scrotum-tightening sea?

Fine, but I wouldn't be happy with 'wine-dark' or 'storm-dark'
ship's cabin, and that's the problem I had with 'rain-darkened
room'. I love 'rain-darkened landscape', but find it hard to extend
that to the room.

Perhaps somebody has left the windows open.

LOL :-)


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Charles Riggs
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter Reply with quote

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 00:09:37 +0100, "John Dean"
<john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote:

Quote:
Sara Lorimer wrote:

I would never think to describe a room as "rain-darkened," any more
than it would be "curtain-darkened." A street or a shirt or something
else that actually gets wet, sure, but not a room. Does
"rain-darkened room" sound reasonable to you?

How are you with wine-dark sea? scrotum-tightening sea?

Didn't Jim himself use the second expression? Must be OK, then.

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