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John of Aix
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
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It's OK; it was pretty obscure.

Don't you mean "...such as me"? (Just kidding)

Think yourself lucky lad, it's not often one gets an I there from me Wink

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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
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On 10 Mar, in article
1110487071.946472.15230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:

It's OK; it was pretty obscure.

Don't you mean "...such as me"? (Just kidding)

Do you suppose you could provide a /little/ bit of context, quoted,
in
your posts? Not everyone uses a newsreader that threads by analysing
the
References header (my own only threads by Subject, and date of
receipt).

--
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
bhk@dsl.co.uk
"Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas
eu
le loisir de la faire plus courte."
Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/,
1657


Is that better?
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

John of Aix wrote:
Quote:
vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
It's OK; it was pretty obscure.

Don't you mean "...such as me"? (Just kidding)

Think yourself lucky lad, it's not often one gets an I there from me
Wink


OK, so which is correct, "...such as I" or "...such as me"?

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Tony Mountifield
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

In article <1110581049.272011.74000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
<vorotyntsev@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:

John of Aix wrote:
vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
It's OK; it was pretty obscure.

Don't you mean "...such as me"? (Just kidding)

Think yourself lucky lad, it's not often one gets an I there from me
;-)

OK, so which is correct, "...such as I" or "...such as me"?

I think it would depend on the case of the noun it was complementing.

"A person such as I would never do that."
"He would never give it to a person such as me."

So in the sentence originally referred to, I think "such as me" would
have been right (but I'm willing to be corrected).

Cheers
Tony
--
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Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
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John of Aix
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
John of Aix wrote:
vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
It's OK; it was pretty obscure.

Don't you mean "...such as me"? (Just kidding)

Think yourself lucky lad, it's not often one gets an I there from me
;-)

OK, so which is correct, "...such as I" or "...such as me"?

Me would say "such as I" Wink but I probably use 'like me' more
frequently.
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John of Aix
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
On 10 Mar, in article
1110487071.946472.15230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:

It's OK; it was pretty obscure.

Don't you mean "...such as me"? (Just kidding)

Do you suppose you could provide a /little/ bit of context, quoted,
in your posts? Not everyone uses a newsreader that threads by
analysing the References header (my own only threads by Subject, and
date of receipt).

Is that better?

Almost, but you should have cut out Brian's sig probably, as I did. The
idea is to leave enough in so that people who come in at that point can
understand what the thread is about
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einde. ocallaghan
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
John of Aix wrote:

vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:

It's OK; it was pretty obscure.

Don't you mean "...such as me"? (Just kidding)

Think yourself lucky lad, it's not often one gets an I there from me

;-)

OK, so which is correct, "...such as I" or "...such as me"?

It depends on whether it is the subject or the object of the sentence -

however I would point out that it sounds very formal and I'd never use
this structure myself. More usual in modern usage is the structure "like
me".

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
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John Hall
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

In article <1110581049.272011.74000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
vorotyntsev@yahoo.com writes:
Quote:

OK, so which is correct, "...such as I" or "...such as me"?

It's short for "...such as I am", which makes the answer clear.

--
John Hall

"I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking."
Katherine Cebrian
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Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

On 11 Mar, in article
<1110580371.344413.106260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:

Quote:
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
[snip everything that I had previously quoted, despite its now being

irrelevant]
Quote:
Do you suppose you could provide a /little/ bit of context, quoted,
in
your posts?
[snip more extraneous material, including (sigh) my .sig]

Is that better?

No; do you not understand the concept of "little"?

--
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk
"Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu
le loisir de la faire plus courte."
Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/, 1657
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Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

On Saturday, in article <39ftbeF5vohqdU1@individual.net>
"einde.ocallaghan"@planet-interkom.de "einde. ocallaghan"
wrote:

Quote:
It depends on whether it is the subject or the object of the sentence -
however I would point out that it sounds very formal and I'd never use
this structure myself. More usual in modern usage is the structure "like
me".

[At which point, the polar bear pats the fox on the head, and says "I
like you, little chap".]

Similarly, most people say "It's me"; whereas the Bible, correctly, has
Christ saying "Be not afraid, it is I".

--
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk
"Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu
le loisir de la faire plus courte."
Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/, 1657
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: Oblique mood Reply with quote

Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
Quote:
On 11 Mar, in article
1110580371.344413.106260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:

Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
[snip everything that I had previously quoted, despite its now being
irrelevant]
Do you suppose you could provide a /little/ bit of context,
quoted,
in
your posts?
[snip more extraneous material, including (sigh) my .sig]

Is that better?

No; do you not understand the concept of "little"?

--
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
bhk@dsl.co.uk
"Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas
eu
le loisir de la faire plus courte."
Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/,
1657


Some people are never satisfied.
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