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Jack
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:41 pm
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I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am I
wrong?
Please help clear my foggy mind.
Thanks everybody! :)
Jack
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:06 pm
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Jack wrote:
| Quote: | I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come
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this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am
I
wrong?
Please help clear my foggy mind.
It is not an acronym. |
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Maria Conlon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:10 pm
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Mike Lyle wrote:
| Quote: | Jack wrote:
I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am I
wrong?
Please help clear my foggy mind.
It is not an acronym.
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So it *doesn't* stand for Males Rule?
Maria Conlon
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:54 pm
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On 7 Nov 2004 06:41:40 -0800, "Jack" <jackhird@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am I
wrong?
Please help clear my foggy mind.
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I find that a dictionary can sometimes be of help to mine, when it's
foggy and occasionally when it is not. I read in one, "Mr., from
Middle English, abbreviation of maister, [later] master".
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Charles Riggs
They are no accented letters in my email address |
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Adrian Bailey
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:26 am
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"Jack" <jackhird@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
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It isn't a "conclusion", it's a mistake.
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nemo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:09 am
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Jack <jackhird@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1099838500.574648.279600@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am I
wrong?
Please help clear my foggy mind.
Thanks everybody! :)
Jack
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It's an abbreviation of 'Master' and Mrs. is an abbraviation of Mistress,
but so is Miss. It's all very confusing really.
How Master came to be an archaic title for a male child, I've no eye deer!
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Mssrs. is an abbreviation of the French: Messieurs, BTW. |
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nemo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:11 am
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Maria Conlon <mariaconlon001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2v6s6aF2in8s8U1@uni-berlin.de...
| Quote: | Mike Lyle wrote:
Jack wrote:
I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am I
wrong?
Please help clear my foggy mind.
It is not an acronym.
So it *doesn't* stand for Males Rule?
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Might stand for Megalomaniac Rantipole!
(Nice bit of M.E. there.) |
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:02 am
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"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Jack" <jackhird@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1099838500.574648.279600@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion?
It isn't a "conclusion", it's a mistake.
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A mistaken conclusion, no? |
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Jack
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:09 am
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I knew it had to be wrong.
Thanks everybody!
Jack |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:18 pm
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On 7 Nov 2004 06:41:40 -0800, "Jack" <jackhird@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am I
wrong?
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Only when it's pronounced "myrrh".
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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Ross Howard
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:22 pm
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 15:06:46 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrought:
| Quote: | Jack wrote:
I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come
to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am
I
wrong?
Please help clear my foggy mind.
It is not an acronym.
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It is a free man!
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Ross Howard |
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Athel Cornish-Bowden
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:15 pm
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"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<2v6s09F2hqauaU2@uni-berlin.de>...
| Quote: | Jack wrote:
I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come
to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am
I
wrong?
Please help clear my foggy mind.
It is not an acronym.
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Yes, but vagueness about the difference between acronyms and
abbreviations is increasingly widespread, and I doubt if it will
survive another generation. The great stylists who designed the web
browser Internet Explorer decided that they would recognize the tag
<acronym> but would ignore the W3C's recommended <abbr>, so if you
want to tag an abbreviation so that it will be detected as such by
Internet Explorer you have to enclose it in <acronym title=" ... ">
.... </acronym> tags. I resisted this for a long time, but eventually
gave in, thinking it was more important to give readers the
information they might want than to insist on correct use of terms.
athel
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Athel Cornish-Bowden
athel@ibsm.cnrs-mrs.fr
http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/homepage.htm |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:01 pm
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Steve Hayes filted:
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On 7 Nov 2004 06:41:40 -0800, "Jack" <jackhird@gmail.com> wrote:
I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am I
wrong?
Only when it's pronounced "myrrh".
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It may be an acronym when followed by the numeral "2" and used by the Toyota
company...(insert here story that the name "MR2" in French is a homophone for
"shitty")....r |
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Michael Hamm
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:15 pm
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Today, Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel@ibsm.cnrs-mrs.fr> abed:
| Quote: | vagueness about the difference between acronyms and abbreviations is
increasingly widespread, and I doubt if it will survive another
generation. The great stylists who designed the web browser Internet
Explorer decided that they would recognize the tag <acronym> but would
ignore the W3C's recommended <abbr>, so if you want to tag an
abbreviation so that it will be detected as such by Internet Explorer
you have to enclose it in <acronym title=" ... "> ... </acronym> tags. I
resisted this for a long time, but eventually gave in, thinking it was
more important to give readers the information they might want than to
insist on correct use of terms.
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I don't agree that your long-term resistance was an insistence on the
correct use of terms. Although you may have been insisting on using
<acronym> strictly for acronyms and <abbr> strictly for abbreviations,
that does not mean that you were insisting on the correct use of <acronym>
and of <abbr>. <Acronym> and <abbr> were defined in HTML4 respectively as
indicating acronyms and abbreviations, but, as has been discussed
elsewhere (i.e., not on aue), the W3C was very unclear about the
difference between the two elements. See, e.g.,
<URL:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/1999Oct/0046.html>,
<URL:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/1999Oct/0097.html>,
<URL:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/1999Oct/0099.html>,
<URL:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/1999Oct/0148.html>,
<URL:http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/abbr.html#markup>, and/or
<URL:http://google.com/groups?th=e32c50200f290b01>.
Note (from the above URLs) that <acronym> is not necessarily for acronyms
and <abbr> is not necessarily for abbreviations. This is much like the
facts that <address> is not necessarily for addresses (but, rather, is for
"contact information for document [sic] or a major part of a document"
(from the HTML4 specification)) and <form> is not necessarily for forms
(the way the word 'form' is understood outside of HTML circles). That's
why I say that your insistence is not necessarily on the correct use of
terms.
Michael Hamm
AM, Math, Wash. U. St. Louis
msh210@math.wustl.edu Standard disclaimers:
http://math.wustl.edu/~msh210/ ... legal.html |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:06 am
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On 7 Nov 2004 06:41:40 -0800, "Jack" <jackhird@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I read recently that "Mr." is an acronym. How did the writer come to
this conclusion? I always thought it was simply an abbreviation? Am I
wrong?
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Only when it's pronounced "myrrh".
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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