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Jim Ward
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:02:39 -0500, que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com (Sara
Lorimer) wrote:

Quote:
And I drink my coffee out of a tea cup, to boot.

Tea cups are too small! I find as I get older my coffee mugs are
getting larger and larger, as I do not want to get up and schlepp to
the pot. My bladder is developing in the opposite direction, so there
is a conservation of distance law in play.

I have never liked the idea of dunking anything in my cup of coffee,
like an olicook or a biscotto (meaning twice cooked), because it
leaves flakes floating on top.

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Laura F Spira
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

Jim Ward wrote:

Quote:

I have never liked the idea of dunking anything in my cup of coffee,
like an olicook or a biscotto (meaning twice cooked), because it
leaves flakes floating on top.

I have no idea why an olicook might be, but dunking without residue is
an art. Proper biscotti are *designed* for dunking - they are far too
hard for normal eating. (The variety that are designed for dunking in
dessert wine are, I think, cantuccini.) Digestive biscuits may be eaten
dry more safely than biscotti but are better dunked.
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
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John O'Flaherty
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

Arcadian Rises wrote:

Quote:
From: John O'Flaherty quiasmox@yahoo.com


Sara Lorimer wrote:

Something's puzzling me as I sit here waiting for the kettle to boil.
Imagine I have two coffee mugs. One is small, the other is large. I make
tea in both, each with one tea bag and water sufficient to fill the mug.
Does each mug contain the same amount of caffeine?

I'll probably figure out the answer to this as soon as the tea wakes me
up, and once again I'll be posting a "whoops, that was silly of me"
comment. Ah well, I'm used to it.


I think the larger cup will contain more, because the final solution
will be more dilute, and so draw more drug out of the tea. Unless
caffeine is so soluble that they will contain essentially the same amount.


IIUC, you're saying that the the two cups either contain the same amount of
caffeine, or they don't. Tertium non datur.

True, but I did remove the question about the volume of water from the
issue, pointing out that it depends solely on the completeness with
which the drug passes into water generally.

Quote:
Thinking it over eleven times, I still think so...

I should explain this peculiar statement- when I mozillaed into AUE, I
saw 11 copies of Sara's message, and, not realizing it was on my
computer only, I posted a smart-aleck reply.

Quote:
Me too, unless you consider the possibility that the two bags contain herbal
tea caffeine free, in which case there is only one answer: both cups contain
the same amount of caffeine: zero.

I read somewhere that tea contains a caffeine-like alkaloid called
theobromine instead of caffeine, but I don't know the whole story about
it. So it may be zero even for regular tea.

--
john

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John O'Flaherty
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

Jim Ward wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:02:39 -0500, que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com (Sara
Lorimer) wrote:


And I drink my coffee out of a tea cup, to boot.


Tea cups are too small! I find as I get older my coffee mugs are
getting larger and larger, as I do not want to get up and schlepp to
the pot. My bladder is developing in the opposite direction, so there
is a conservation of distance law in play.

Put the coffeemaker in the bathroom. With a cup bigger than it needs to
be, there's the minimum distance.

--
john
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the Omrud
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

John O'Flaherty typed thus:

Quote:
Jim Ward wrote:

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:02:39 -0500, que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com (Sara
Lorimer) wrote:

And I drink my coffee out of a tea cup, to boot.

Tea cups are too small! I find as I get older my coffee mugs are
getting larger and larger, as I do not want to get up and schlepp to
the pot. My bladder is developing in the opposite direction, so there
is a conservation of distance law in play.

Put the coffeemaker in the bathroom. With a cup bigger than it needs to
be, there's the minimum distance.

US hotel rooms often place the coffee maker in the en suite bathroom.
This seems strange to us UKers, as it's not legal here to have mains
sockets in a bathroom (although we have them in our new build in
France, which I presume is legal).

--
David
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replace the first component of address
with the definite article.
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John Seeliger
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bf85f4162f5933e98a9ca@news.individual.net...
Quote:
John O'Flaherty typed thus:

Jim Ward wrote:

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:02:39 -0500, que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com (Sara
Lorimer) wrote:

And I drink my coffee out of a tea cup, to boot.

Tea cups are too small! I find as I get older my coffee mugs are
getting larger and larger, as I do not want to get up and schlepp to
the pot. My bladder is developing in the opposite direction, so there
is a conservation of distance law in play.

Put the coffeemaker in the bathroom. With a cup bigger than it needs to
be, there's the minimum distance.

US hotel rooms often place the coffee maker in the en suite bathroom.
This seems strange to us UKers, as it's not legal here to have mains
sockets in a bathroom

Is that the UK term for an electrical outlet? If so, are there no electric
toothbrushes or hairdryers in there.

Now, the part about no electrical outlets in a shower, I understand.
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Tony Cooper
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 16:35:46 -0000, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:
John O'Flaherty typed thus:

Jim Ward wrote:

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:02:39 -0500, que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com (Sara
Lorimer) wrote:

And I drink my coffee out of a tea cup, to boot.

Tea cups are too small! I find as I get older my coffee mugs are
getting larger and larger, as I do not want to get up and schlepp to
the pot. My bladder is developing in the opposite direction, so there
is a conservation of distance law in play.

Put the coffeemaker in the bathroom. With a cup bigger than it needs to
be, there's the minimum distance.

US hotel rooms often place the coffee maker in the en suite bathroom.
This seems strange to us UKers, as it's not legal here to have mains
sockets in a bathroom (although we have them in our new build in
France, which I presume is legal).

Our bathrooms all have one outlet (mains socket, to you) near the
sink. Presumably, to be used a shaver point.

I recently changed most of the outlet fixtures in the house. The
previous fixtures were a beige-ish color that have further yellowed to
ugliness over the years, so I exchanged them out for white ones. I
noticed that the bathroom outlets have a different wiring to the
circuit breaker box. The circuit breakers for these outlets "pop"
quicker than the other circuits.
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the Omrud
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

John Seeliger typed thus:

Quote:
"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bf85f4162f5933e98a9ca@news.individual.net...
John O'Flaherty typed thus:

Jim Ward wrote:

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:02:39 -0500, que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com (Sara
Lorimer) wrote:

And I drink my coffee out of a tea cup, to boot.

Tea cups are too small! I find as I get older my coffee mugs are
getting larger and larger, as I do not want to get up and schlepp to
the pot. My bladder is developing in the opposite direction, so there
is a conservation of distance law in play.

Put the coffeemaker in the bathroom. With a cup bigger than it needs to
be, there's the minimum distance.

US hotel rooms often place the coffee maker in the en suite bathroom.
This seems strange to us UKers, as it's not legal here to have mains
sockets in a bathroom

Is that the UK term for an electrical outlet? If so, are there no electric
toothbrushes or hairdryers in there.

Now, the part about no electrical outlets in a shower, I understand.

The only mains outlets (aka mains sockets) allowed in a bathroom are
those which are transformed from the mains, meaning that there is no
circuit from the socket to earth. Yes, these are typically for
shavers and toothbrushes. We don't use portable hairdryers in
bathrooms as there are no sockets. I expect it's OK to use a fully
wired, double insulated hairdryer like the ones found in hotels,
which may also be transformed, but these are not used in homes. We
go into the bedroom to dry hair.

Actually, I think the wiring regulations prohibit the installation of
a normal mains socket where a person could touch both the socket and
a tap or water in a bath or sink. But you'd have to have a big
bathroom to comply with this.

--
David
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John Seeliger
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:16 am    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
John Seeliger typed thus:

"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bf85f4162f5933e98a9ca@news.individual.net...
John O'Flaherty typed thus:

Jim Ward wrote:

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:02:39 -0500, que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com
(Sara
Lorimer) wrote:

And I drink my coffee out of a tea cup, to boot.

Tea cups are too small! I find as I get older my coffee mugs are
getting larger and larger, as I do not want to get up and schlepp to
the pot. My bladder is developing in the opposite direction, so
there
is a conservation of distance law in play.

Put the coffeemaker in the bathroom. With a cup bigger than it needs
to
be, there's the minimum distance.

US hotel rooms often place the coffee maker in the en suite bathroom.
This seems strange to us UKers, as it's not legal here to have mains
sockets in a bathroom

Is that the UK term for an electrical outlet? If so, are there no
electric
toothbrushes or hairdryers in there.

Now, the part about no electrical outlets in a shower, I understand.

The only mains outlets (aka mains sockets) allowed in a bathroom are
those which are transformed from the mains, meaning that there is no
circuit from the socket to earth. Yes, these are typically for
shavers and toothbrushes. We don't use portable hairdryers in
bathrooms as there are no sockets. I expect it's OK to use a fully
wired, double insulated hairdryer like the ones found in hotels,
which may also be transformed, but these are not used in homes. We
go into the bedroom to dry hair.

Another option would be to find a bathroom with one of those hand dryers in
it (like are usually found in public restrooms) and place your head under
hit, continuing to hit the button until your hair is dry. Probably a line
from _Get Smart_ is appropriate at this point:

Chief: Max, that's[1] ridiculous.
Max: It is? Well, don't do it.

[1]- Max had just suggested to the chief that though a special bread-growing
formula would not work to grow hair, the chief could just use it to grow a
long beard and comb it back over his head.
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John O'Flaherty
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

the Omrud wrote:

Quote:
John O'Flaherty typed thus:


Jim Ward wrote:


On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:02:39 -0500, que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com (Sara
Lorimer) wrote:


And I drink my coffee out of a tea cup, to boot.

Tea cups are too small! I find as I get older my coffee mugs are
getting larger and larger, as I do not want to get up and schlepp to
the pot. My bladder is developing in the opposite direction, so there
is a conservation of distance law in play.

Put the coffeemaker in the bathroom. With a cup bigger than it needs to
be, there's the minimum distance.


US hotel rooms often place the coffee maker in the en suite bathroom.
This seems strange to us UKers, as it's not legal here to have mains
sockets in a bathroom (although we have them in our new build in
France, which I presume is legal).

Nowadays, all outlets in bathrooms or kitchens or where there is a
concrete floor have to have ground fault circuit interruptors (GFCIs),
which break the circuit the instant the return current doesn't balance
the source current, so none can be diverted to electrocute anyone.
That's true where I live, anyhow.
--
john
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Linz
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

"Laura F Spira" <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote in message
news:418DD989.9050609@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk...

Quote:
I think tea would be a more appropriate beverage to be supped from
one's Wellingtons. Has anyone ever *really* drunk champagne from a
lady's slipper?

Only quickly. If you sip, the champers leaks through the silk and drips
down your front.
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Mickwick
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

In alt.usage.english, Linz wrote:
Quote:
"Laura F Spira" <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote in message

I think tea would be a more appropriate beverage to be supped from
one's Wellingtons. Has anyone ever *really* drunk champagne from a
lady's slipper?

Only quickly. If you sip, the champers leaks through the silk and drips
down your front.

So all this slipper business is just an excuse to lick champagne from a
lady's front?

--
Mickwick
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Peter Moylan
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

Paul Wolff biped:

Quote:
Since nothing has been removed from the cups, whatever was in the bags
remains in the cups. Provided that caffeine is neither created nor
destroyed, each cup still contains one teabag's worth of caffeine.

As one result of the poverty that followed my first divorce, I used
to get two cups of tea out of each teabag. The second cup was almost
as strong as the first.

Somebody once suggested that we save our used teabags to donate to
pensioners. The idea didn't get off the ground.

--
Peter Moylan peter at ee dot newcastle dot edu dot au
http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au (OS/2 and eCS information and software)
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don groves
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

In article <slrncp4eap.6q2.peter@EEPJM.newcastle.edu.au>, Peter
Moylan at peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au exposited:
Quote:
Paul Wolff biped:

Since nothing has been removed from the cups, whatever was in the bags
remains in the cups. Provided that caffeine is neither created nor
destroyed, each cup still contains one teabag's worth of caffeine.

As one result of the poverty that followed my first divorce, I used
to get two cups of tea out of each teabag. The second cup was almost
as strong as the first.

Since too strong tea disagrees with my stomach (or is it other
way around?) I've always gotten two, sometimes three, cups per
bag.


Quote:
Somebody once suggested that we save our used teabags to donate to
pensioners. The idea didn't get off the ground.

--
dg (domain=ccwebster)
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Sara Lorimer
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: tea Reply with quote

Alec McKenzie wrote:

Quote:
"Richard Maurer" <rcpb1_maurer@yahoo.com> wrote:

On the same page they give caffeine in milligrams

Tea, brewed, imported 60
Tea, brewed, U.S. 40

Do they really import brewed tea?

I've seen it in Asian grocery stores, in cans.

Quote:
And do they really grow tea in the U.S.?

A teeny bit. This article from last year about a tea plantation in South
Carolina...
<http://www.usatoday.com/money/smallbusiness/2003-04-11-charleston-tea_x
..htm>
.... says that "[w]hile the plantation was considered the nation's only
working tea plantation, there have been efforts in recent years to
develop a tea industry in both Oregon and Hawaii."

--
SML

Dignity, always dignity.
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