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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: How to get loans out of default ? I'm lost Reply with quote

Hi,

I just found out that I have 63000 in loans and that they are in
default. I would like to get them out of default so that I can continue
my academic education, but I have no idea where to begin. I've been to
two different colleges, and each one is apparently unwilling or unable
to tell me what I need to do to get my loans out of default. they
didnt tell me when i got the loans that my loans would be held by 15
different random banks either -- they told me the government was
loaning the money; i have no idea who i owe money to!! how can i pay?

I have looked at my credit report, and seen some loans listed there --
I see 15 or 16 different creditors listed there, and I owe all around
$4,000. I imagine they pertain to my student loans, but there is no
indication of it anywhere, and the credit bureau (equifax) cannot be
contacted. Even if it is student loan creditors, I have no idea if the
list is complete. Is there a way to get a complete list, so that my
efforts to get out of default aren't in vain?

I intend to finish my undergraduate degree, go to graduate school, and
eventually repay my loans, if i can ever figure out who i owe them
to....? does anyone have any advice at all -- i have been turned away
from student loan offices on campus, banks, law offices, the
department of ed's 800 number -- nobody knows what to do to get my
loans out of default, and I think they piling up interest...can anyone
please help? Thanks!

Pat

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Steve Blank
Guest





Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get loans out of default ? I'm lost Reply with quote

You're kidding, right? You had $63,000(??) in loans you didn't know
about, now you somehow know about them but nobody can tell you what they
are or who is holding them? So how did you learn about them? Your
colleges know what loans you took, prospective lenders will know of
defaults from the credit reports.

If you're not pulling our legs, here's a way you may be able to find out.
Go to www.fafsa.ed.gov and click on the link in the upper left to go to
the PIN website. Register for a PIN to be sent you by email or snail mail.

Once you have it, go to http://www.nslds.ed.gov/ It's the National
Student Loan Data System. Click on financial aid review, use your PIN
and other info to sign in, and your entire loan history and lenders may
be there for your review. I don't know how far back they go, so if your
loans are really old they may not show.

Then how do you get them out of default? You contact the lenders and
arrange payments.

Steven B. Blank
College Financial Aid Consultants
29 Ives Hill Court
Cheshire, CT 06410
(203)250-7761


patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I just found out that I have 63000 in loans and that they are in
default. I would like to get them out of default so that I can continue
my academic education, but I have no idea where to begin. I've been to
two different colleges, and each one is apparently unwilling or unable
to tell me what I need to do to get my loans out of default. they
didnt tell me when i got the loans that my loans would be held by 15
different random banks either -- they told me the government was
loaning the money; i have no idea who i owe money to!! how can i pay?

I have looked at my credit report, and seen some loans listed there --
I see 15 or 16 different creditors listed there, and I owe all around
$4,000. I imagine they pertain to my student loans, but there is no
indication of it anywhere, and the credit bureau (equifax) cannot be
contacted. Even if it is student loan creditors, I have no idea if the
list is complete. Is there a way to get a complete list, so that my
efforts to get out of default aren't in vain?

I intend to finish my undergraduate degree, go to graduate school, and
eventually repay my loans, if i can ever figure out who i owe them
to....? does anyone have any advice at all -- i have been turned away
from student loan offices on campus, banks, law offices, the
department of ed's 800 number -- nobody knows what to do to get my
loans out of default, and I think they piling up interest...can anyone
please help? Thanks!

Pat
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Guest






Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: How to get loans out of default ? I'm lost Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply, but I have to say though, that your tone reminds
me everyone else -- smug, disbelieving and unapproving.

Sorry -- I know you mean well -- , but it enrages me when people take
that attitude; just because you're middle/working class or better,
doesnt mean everyone else is. I think that attitude is part the
liberal-guilt myth, shared by all ethnicities, that anyone can get an
education, which is BULLSHIT. FAFSA loans dont cover all your expenses
-- which is why i dropped out in the first place --, and they dont
teach you how to manage money. FAFSA loans are of use to the
working-class and middle-class, but not the poor, because the poor
don't know *how* to use them (how do you think they got poor in the
first place?), from start to finish. And colleges are the worst,
especially private ones; once they get your money, they have no use for
you.

Quote:
You're kidding, right?

not kidding. dead serious.

Quote:
You had $63,000(??) in loans you didn't know
about, now you somehow know about them but nobody can tell you what
they
are or who is holding them?

Right.

Quote:
So how did you learn about them?

By a) having a vague idea that the loans I had have would be in default
-- I had deferred loans for some time while i was in school -- , b) by
applying for a loan and being rejected, and c) by subsequently checking
my credit. I thought all along that the government was the sole lender
-- I had no idea that all these different private banks were going to
be holding my loans.

Quote:
Your
colleges know what loans you took, prospective lenders will know of
defaults from the credit reports.

One would think, but the colleges have no idea -- the loans have been
sold and resold so many times, i guess they dont know who holds them --
possible to trace through original lenders??

Quote:

If you're not pulling our legs, here's a way you may be able to find
out.
Go to www.fafsa.ed.gov and click on the link in the upper left to go
to
the PIN website. Register for a PIN to be sent you by email or snail
mail.

Once you have it, go to http://www.nslds.ed.gov/ It's the National
Student Loan Data System. Click on financial aid review, use your PIN

and other info to sign in, and your entire loan history and lenders
may
be there for your review.

thanks, but it appears this site only gives information for certain
types of loans; http://www.nslds.ed.gov/SAStatic/faq1.htm#ques1.3.
Again, I don't know what types of loans I originally took out.

Quote:
Then how do you get them out of default? You contact the lenders and
arrange payments.

Would I have to contact all 15,16,17 seperate lenders seperately? even
though I was told I was only borrowing from one source?

Can i consolidate them into one?

Also, if they get out of default, will they be off my credit record?

And most importantly, is it possible that doing all this will lead to
me being able to get new FSA loans, or have i lost that possibility
forever? Is this tied to my credit rating?




Quote:


patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I just found out that I have 63000 in loans and that they are in
default. I would like to get them out of default so that I can
continue
my academic education, but I have no idea where to begin. I've been
to
two different colleges, and each one is apparently unwilling or
unable
to tell me what I need to do to get my loans out of default. they
didnt tell me when i got the loans that my loans would be held by
15
different random banks either -- they told me the government was
loaning the money; i have no idea who i owe money to!! how can i
pay?

I have looked at my credit report, and seen some loans listed there
--
I see 15 or 16 different creditors listed there, and I owe all
around
$4,000. I imagine they pertain to my student loans, but there is no
indication of it anywhere, and the credit bureau (equifax) cannot
be
contacted. Even if it is student loan creditors, I have no idea if
the
list is complete. Is there a way to get a complete list, so that my
efforts to get out of default aren't in vain?

I intend to finish my undergraduate degree, go to graduate school,
and
eventually repay my loans, if i can ever figure out who i owe them
to....? does anyone have any advice at all -- i have been turned
away
from student loan offices on campus, banks, law offices, the
department of ed's 800 number -- nobody knows what to do to get my
loans out of default, and I think they piling up interest...can
anyone
please help? Thanks!

Pat


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Steve Blank
Guest





Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: How to get loans out of default ? I'm lost Reply with quote

Not smug or disapproving, just startled that you would have that many
loans and not know it. Some people post weird untrue stories just to get
a reaction. Sorry if I offended you.

While you were in college, you either received federal-backed loans
(Stafford and Perkins) which often are made by banks, or private
educational loans made by the lenders. The website I gave should bring
up any Stafford or Perkins, which are usually the types of loans you
would have started with.

It will not show any private loans.

If any of the loans in default are federal ones, you will be unable to
get any more until you make satisfactory arrangements to begin paying
them off. If they were all private loans, you may be eligible to get
more federal loans which are not tied to credit ratings.


Steven B. Blank
College Financial Aid Consultants
29 Ives Hill Court
Cheshire, CT 06410
(203)250-7761



patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Thanks for your reply, but I have to say though, that your tone reminds
me everyone else -- smug, disbelieving and unapproving.

Sorry -- I know you mean well -- , but it enrages me when people take
that attitude; just because you're middle/working class or better,
doesnt mean everyone else is. I think that attitude is part the
liberal-guilt myth, shared by all ethnicities, that anyone can get an
education, which is BULLSHIT. FAFSA loans dont cover all your expenses
-- which is why i dropped out in the first place --, and they dont
teach you how to manage money. FAFSA loans are of use to the
working-class and middle-class, but not the poor, because the poor
don't know *how* to use them (how do you think they got poor in the
first place?), from start to finish. And colleges are the worst,
especially private ones; once they get your money, they have no use for
you.


You're kidding, right?


not kidding. dead serious.


You had $63,000(??) in loans you didn't know
about, now you somehow know about them but nobody can tell you what

they

are or who is holding them?


Right.


So how did you learn about them?


By a) having a vague idea that the loans I had have would be in default
-- I had deferred loans for some time while i was in school -- , b) by
applying for a loan and being rejected, and c) by subsequently checking
my credit. I thought all along that the government was the sole lender
-- I had no idea that all these different private banks were going to
be holding my loans.


Your
colleges know what loans you took, prospective lenders will know of
defaults from the credit reports.


One would think, but the colleges have no idea -- the loans have been
sold and resold so many times, i guess they dont know who holds them --
possible to trace through original lenders??


If you're not pulling our legs, here's a way you may be able to find

out.

Go to www.fafsa.ed.gov and click on the link in the upper left to go

to

the PIN website. Register for a PIN to be sent you by email or snail

mail.

Once you have it, go to http://www.nslds.ed.gov/ It's the National
Student Loan Data System. Click on financial aid review, use your PIN


and other info to sign in, and your entire loan history and lenders

may

be there for your review.


thanks, but it appears this site only gives information for certain
types of loans; http://www.nslds.ed.gov/SAStatic/faq1.htm#ques1.3.
Again, I don't know what types of loans I originally took out.


Then how do you get them out of default? You contact the lenders and
arrange payments.


Would I have to contact all 15,16,17 seperate lenders seperately? even
though I was told I was only borrowing from one source?

Can i consolidate them into one?

Also, if they get out of default, will they be off my credit record?

And most importantly, is it possible that doing all this will lead to
me being able to get new FSA loans, or have i lost that possibility
forever? Is this tied to my credit rating?






patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I just found out that I have 63000 in loans and that they are in
default. I would like to get them out of default so that I can

continue

my academic education, but I have no idea where to begin. I've been

to

two different colleges, and each one is apparently unwilling or

unable

to tell me what I need to do to get my loans out of default. they
didnt tell me when i got the loans that my loans would be held by

15

different random banks either -- they told me the government was
loaning the money; i have no idea who i owe money to!! how can i

pay?

I have looked at my credit report, and seen some loans listed there

--

I see 15 or 16 different creditors listed there, and I owe all

around

$4,000. I imagine they pertain to my student loans, but there is no
indication of it anywhere, and the credit bureau (equifax) cannot

be

contacted. Even if it is student loan creditors, I have no idea if

the

list is complete. Is there a way to get a complete list, so that my
efforts to get out of default aren't in vain?

I intend to finish my undergraduate degree, go to graduate school,

and

eventually repay my loans, if i can ever figure out who i owe them
to....? does anyone have any advice at all -- i have been turned

away

from student loan offices on campus, banks, law offices, the
department of ed's 800 number -- nobody knows what to do to get my
loans out of default, and I think they piling up interest...can

anyone

please help? Thanks!

Pat


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Guest






Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: How to get loans out of default ? I'm lost Reply with quote

Quote:
Not smug or disapproving, just startled that you would have that many

loans and not know it. Some people post weird untrue stories just to
get
a reaction. Sorry if I offended you.

I see. That's ok, you didn't offend me; you just triggered months of
frustration I have accumulated while trying to get this sorted out,
plus who knows how many years of other various and sundry resentments
that have nothing to do with you. Sorry -- I can see how bizarre it
seems to have so much debt and know so little about it. I intend to
inform myself in this matter thoroughly from here on out.

Does this sound like a good plan of attack?

1. establish which loans are Federal-backed and which are "private
loans" (using website plus redoubled and better-informed efforts to
extract info from colleges attended)

2. make voluntary payment arrangements with federal-loan holders, to
get those loans out of default. Is this what's called 'rehabilitation'?

3 make voluntary payment arrangements with private loan holders to get
them out of default.

4 consolidate all loans into one? Any tips on consolidation?

5 upon applying for grad school, request new federal loans? (i've saved
enough to finish my undergraduate degree by paying out of pocket).

Thanks,

Patr


Steve Blank wrote:
Quote:
Not smug or disapproving, just startled that you would have that many

loans and not know it. Some people post weird untrue stories just to
get
a reaction. Sorry if I offended you.

While you were in college, you either received federal-backed loans
(Stafford and Perkins) which often are made by banks, or private
educational loans made by the lenders. The website I gave should
bring
up any Stafford or Perkins, which are usually the types of loans you
would have started with.

It will not show any private loans.

If any of the loans in default are federal ones, you will be unable
to
get any more until you make satisfactory arrangements to begin paying

them off. If they were all private loans, you may be eligible to get
more federal loans which are not tied to credit ratings.


Steven B. Blank
College Financial Aid Consultants
29 Ives Hill Court
Cheshire, CT 06410
(203)250-7761



patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for your reply, but I have to say though, that your tone
reminds
me everyone else -- smug, disbelieving and unapproving.

Sorry -- I know you mean well -- , but it enrages me when people
take
that attitude; just because you're middle/working class or better,
doesnt mean everyone else is. I think that attitude is part the
liberal-guilt myth, shared by all ethnicities, that anyone can get
an
education, which is BULLSHIT. FAFSA loans dont cover all your
expenses
-- which is why i dropped out in the first place --, and they dont
teach you how to manage money. FAFSA loans are of use to the
working-class and middle-class, but not the poor, because the poor
don't know *how* to use them (how do you think they got poor in the
first place?), from start to finish. And colleges are the worst,
especially private ones; once they get your money, they have no use
for
you.


You're kidding, right?


not kidding. dead serious.


You had $63,000(??) in loans you didn't know
about, now you somehow know about them but nobody can tell you what

they

are or who is holding them?


Right.


So how did you learn about them?


By a) having a vague idea that the loans I had have would be in
default
-- I had deferred loans for some time while i was in school -- , b)
by
applying for a loan and being rejected, and c) by subsequently
checking
my credit. I thought all along that the government was the sole
lender
-- I had no idea that all these different private banks were going
to
be holding my loans.


Your
colleges know what loans you took, prospective lenders will know of
defaults from the credit reports.


One would think, but the colleges have no idea -- the loans have
been
sold and resold so many times, i guess they dont know who holds
them --
possible to trace through original lenders??


If you're not pulling our legs, here's a way you may be able to
find

out.

Go to www.fafsa.ed.gov and click on the link in the upper left to
go

to

the PIN website. Register for a PIN to be sent you by email or
snail

mail.

Once you have it, go to http://www.nslds.ed.gov/ It's the National
Student Loan Data System. Click on financial aid review, use your
PIN


and other info to sign in, and your entire loan history and lenders

may

be there for your review.


thanks, but it appears this site only gives information for certain
types of loans; http://www.nslds.ed.gov/SAStatic/faq1.htm#ques1.3.
Again, I don't know what types of loans I originally took out.


Then how do you get them out of default? You contact the lenders
and
arrange payments.


Would I have to contact all 15,16,17 seperate lenders seperately?
even
though I was told I was only borrowing from one source?

Can i consolidate them into one?

Also, if they get out of default, will they be off my credit
record?

And most importantly, is it possible that doing all this will lead
to
me being able to get new FSA loans, or have i lost that possibility
forever? Is this tied to my credit rating?






patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I just found out that I have 63000 in loans and that they are in
default. I would like to get them out of default so that I can

continue

my academic education, but I have no idea where to begin. I've
been

to

two different colleges, and each one is apparently unwilling or

unable

to tell me what I need to do to get my loans out of default. they
didnt tell me when i got the loans that my loans would be held by

15

different random banks either -- they told me the government was
loaning the money; i have no idea who i owe money to!! how can i

pay?

I have looked at my credit report, and seen some loans listed
there

--

I see 15 or 16 different creditors listed there, and I owe all

around

$4,000. I imagine they pertain to my student loans, but there is
no
indication of it anywhere, and the credit bureau (equifax) cannot

be

contacted. Even if it is student loan creditors, I have no idea if

the

list is complete. Is there a way to get a complete list, so that
my
efforts to get out of default aren't in vain?

I intend to finish my undergraduate degree, go to graduate school,

and

eventually repay my loans, if i can ever figure out who i owe
them
to....? does anyone have any advice at all -- i have been turned

away

from student loan offices on campus, banks, law offices, the
department of ed's 800 number -- nobody knows what to do to get my
loans out of default, and I think they piling up interest...can

anyone

please help? Thanks!

Pat


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Steve Blank
Guest





Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: How to get loans out of default ? I'm lost Reply with quote

Sounds like a plan. I'm not a debt expert but maybe a few practical
considerations:

If you want to get future government loans, concentrate on getting those
straightened out first. Once they are satisfied that you are making
satisfactory arrangements (it may require a few months of on-time
payments) you should be able to get future government-backed loans
because credit history is not a consideration, like it is for the
private loans.

Another reason for taking on the federal ones first is that
federal-backed education loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy if you
ever go down that road. The private loans can.

Then once you go back to school those loans can go into deferment with
Uncle Sam paying the interest if they were subsidized.

Once the federal loans are in good standing, you can consolidate them if
you never have before - but you can't consolidate the same loans more
than once.

Private loans can be consolidated under one lender, essentially
refinancing with one lender who will pay off your debts and issue a new
loan, but that's going to require a good credit record and the proven
ability to repay out of your income. Something it sounds like you may
not be able to satisfy right now.

I think I've about hit the end of my knowledge on this subject, so good
luck in your quest - it probably won't be an easy one.

Steven B. Blank
College Financial Aid Consultants
29 Ives Hill Court
Cheshire, CT 06410
(203)250-7761


patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Not smug or disapproving, just startled that you would have that many


loans and not know it. Some people post weird untrue stories just to

get

a reaction. Sorry if I offended you.


I see. That's ok, you didn't offend me; you just triggered months of
frustration I have accumulated while trying to get this sorted out,
plus who knows how many years of other various and sundry resentments
that have nothing to do with you. Sorry -- I can see how bizarre it
seems to have so much debt and know so little about it. I intend to
inform myself in this matter thoroughly from here on out.

Does this sound like a good plan of attack?

1. establish which loans are Federal-backed and which are "private
loans" (using website plus redoubled and better-informed efforts to
extract info from colleges attended)

2. make voluntary payment arrangements with federal-loan holders, to
get those loans out of default. Is this what's called 'rehabilitation'?

3 make voluntary payment arrangements with private loan holders to get
them out of default.

4 consolidate all loans into one? Any tips on consolidation?

5 upon applying for grad school, request new federal loans? (i've saved
enough to finish my undergraduate degree by paying out of pocket).

Thanks,

Patr


Steve Blank wrote:

Not smug or disapproving, just startled that you would have that many


loans and not know it. Some people post weird untrue stories just to

get

a reaction. Sorry if I offended you.

While you were in college, you either received federal-backed loans
(Stafford and Perkins) which often are made by banks, or private
educational loans made by the lenders. The website I gave should

bring

up any Stafford or Perkins, which are usually the types of loans you
would have started with.

It will not show any private loans.

If any of the loans in default are federal ones, you will be unable

to

get any more until you make satisfactory arrangements to begin paying


them off. If they were all private loans, you may be eligible to get
more federal loans which are not tied to credit ratings.


Steven B. Blank
College Financial Aid Consultants
29 Ives Hill Court
Cheshire, CT 06410
(203)250-7761



patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for your reply, but I have to say though, that your tone

reminds

me everyone else -- smug, disbelieving and unapproving.

Sorry -- I know you mean well -- , but it enrages me when people

take

that attitude; just because you're middle/working class or better,
doesnt mean everyone else is. I think that attitude is part the
liberal-guilt myth, shared by all ethnicities, that anyone can get

an

education, which is BULLSHIT. FAFSA loans dont cover all your

expenses

-- which is why i dropped out in the first place --, and they dont
teach you how to manage money. FAFSA loans are of use to the
working-class and middle-class, but not the poor, because the poor
don't know *how* to use them (how do you think they got poor in the
first place?), from start to finish. And colleges are the worst,
especially private ones; once they get your money, they have no use

for

you.



You're kidding, right?


not kidding. dead serious.



You had $63,000(??) in loans you didn't know
about, now you somehow know about them but nobody can tell you what

they


are or who is holding them?


Right.



So how did you learn about them?


By a) having a vague idea that the loans I had have would be in

default

-- I had deferred loans for some time while i was in school -- , b)

by

applying for a loan and being rejected, and c) by subsequently

checking

my credit. I thought all along that the government was the sole

lender

-- I had no idea that all these different private banks were going

to

be holding my loans.



Your
colleges know what loans you took, prospective lenders will know of
defaults from the credit reports.


One would think, but the colleges have no idea -- the loans have

been

sold and resold so many times, i guess they dont know who holds

them --

possible to trace through original lenders??



If you're not pulling our legs, here's a way you may be able to

find

out.


Go to www.fafsa.ed.gov and click on the link in the upper left to

go

to


the PIN website. Register for a PIN to be sent you by email or

snail

mail.


Once you have it, go to http://www.nslds.ed.gov/ It's the National
Student Loan Data System. Click on financial aid review, use your

PIN


and other info to sign in, and your entire loan history and lenders

may


be there for your review.


thanks, but it appears this site only gives information for certain
types of loans; http://www.nslds.ed.gov/SAStatic/faq1.htm#ques1.3.
Again, I don't know what types of loans I originally took out.



Then how do you get them out of default? You contact the lenders

and

arrange payments.


Would I have to contact all 15,16,17 seperate lenders seperately?

even

though I was told I was only borrowing from one source?

Can i consolidate them into one?

Also, if they get out of default, will they be off my credit

record?

And most importantly, is it possible that doing all this will lead

to

me being able to get new FSA loans, or have i lost that possibility
forever? Is this tied to my credit rating?






patronofthearts@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I just found out that I have 63000 in loans and that they are in
default. I would like to get them out of default so that I can

continue


my academic education, but I have no idea where to begin. I've

been

to


two different colleges, and each one is apparently unwilling or

unable


to tell me what I need to do to get my loans out of default. they
didnt tell me when i got the loans that my loans would be held by

15


different random banks either -- they told me the government was
loaning the money; i have no idea who i owe money to!! how can i

pay?


I have looked at my credit report, and seen some loans listed

there

--


I see 15 or 16 different creditors listed there, and I owe all

around


$4,000. I imagine they pertain to my student loans, but there is

no

indication of it anywhere, and the credit bureau (equifax) cannot

be


contacted. Even if it is student loan creditors, I have no idea if

the


list is complete. Is there a way to get a complete list, so that

my

efforts to get out of default aren't in vain?

I intend to finish my undergraduate degree, go to graduate school,

and


eventually repay my loans, if i can ever figure out who i owe

them

to....? does anyone have any advice at all -- i have been turned

away


from student loan offices on campus, banks, law offices, the

department of ed's 800 number -- nobody knows what to do to get my
loans out of default, and I think they piling up interest...can

anyone


please help? Thanks!

Pat



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