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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:28 pm
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:55:09 -0500, "Maria Conlon"
<mariaconlon001@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs wrote:
Maria Conlon wrote:
Maria Conlon
P.S.:Which is it: comcast or eircom? Do either/both work?
Something odd is going on, that's for sure. Both should work, and I
should be able to email you easily enough. Strangely, one got through
and the rest, it seems, didn't.
Settings checked?
Maybe try Hotmail again -- just use Reply to Sender from this message.
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It didn't work, as with the first time.
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Charles Riggs
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Definition of "make out with" |
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Maria Conlon wrote:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs wrote:
Areff wrote:
Silent majority. They helped re-elect Nixon four years later,
when
the '50s Revival was already under way.
Interesting group of people, this silent majority. Why had we
never
heard from them before: lurking, were they? They defeated our man
John Kerry, who now realizes he should have paid them some
attention. Can you explain, Maria, why they think as they do?
No. I'm not a member of the Silent Majority.* I am not silent, you
see, even though I am part of the majority on many issues.
*Usually (or at least, frequently) capitalized, I think.
Maria Conlon
P.S.:Which is it: comcast or eircom? Do either/both work?
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But, of course, "the silent majority" or just "the majority" used to
mean the dead. I'm glad you aren't a member, Maria. I once asked here
for examples of the usage from people's reading; I suppose I should
MasterText it.
Mike. |
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:05 am
Post subject: Re: OT? (was: Re: Definition of "make out with") |
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lightbulb wrote:
Ah, Australia, land of romance! The shimmer on the gibber plain! The
blue remembered hills! Oh, hear my song, don't be a nong: leave the
'Gong, an' come along to me donga in the Dandenongs! Longa me a
longer donger!
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voice_imitator
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:13 am
Post subject: Re: Definition of "make out with" |
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| Quote: | My eyes have been opened wider.
None of the posters seem to have commented on Juuitchan's possibly
too-direct approach. One gathers that he is young and will better
recover from rebuffs than some of us old fogies.
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Well, I think the statistical method is a recognized approach to
seduction. This is the approach, for instance, of Isaac Bashevis
Singer. And it is an approach alluded to in the Roger Avary film "The
Rules of Attraction", where it's suggested that if you stand on a
corner in Europe and randomly ask women to sleep with you, one in
twenty will accept.
I suppose you could also look at it, not as an approach per se, but as
an element of an approach. Any game that anyone runs will probably bank
on statistics -- "This particular girl won't be so gullible, but if I
try everyone in the pub, and in the pub down the street, the odds are
that..."
I'm rather surprised, actually, that you old fogies (I'd consider
myself a young fogie) take longer to recover from rebuffs. I mean,
eventually, don't you you regret the road not travelled more than the
road you crashed and burned on, and don't you, as Borges did, come to
regard timidity not as a virtue but as a sin?
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By Joseph Epstein, from "The Weekly Standard":
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/783obafc.asp
HE HAD BEEN GIVEN TWO ROOMS in the building in which he had earlier
read. In the sitting room there were a couch, a few chairs, a table
upon which was a bowl filled with fruit. They sat on opposite ends of
the couch. Singer asked the woman--she was then in her thirties, he
perhaps in his late sixties--to tell him what she knew about her family
history. She recounted what little knowledge she had for perhaps four
or five minutes, when Singer, leaning toward her, made his move:
"Do you mind," he asked, in his immigrant's accent, "if I kiss you?"
"Oh, Mr. Singer," she said, "I'm very honored you would ask, but I've
just begun a marriage and I don't want anything to go wrong, I hope you
understand." (To me she said the thought of popping into bed with him
"would have been like sleeping with my grandfather.")
Singer put up a hand, palm outwards. "No, no, no," he said. "Don't
vorry." And, pointing to the table in the center of the room, he added,
"Please, take some fruit to your husband."
The point of this story is not its salaciousness, for it hasn't any.
The point is to recount that Singer's knowledge of sin was not entirely
theoretical. He was apparently one of those seducers who proceed on an
actuarial basis, who tries all women on the statistical assumption that
he might just strike fire and accepts defeat with the same equanimity
as success. He was a married man, and if ever one wishes to see a face
precisely describable as long-suffering, one cannot do better than gaze
upon a photograph of his wife Alma. When Alma left her husband to marry
Singer she also left her two young children, about whom, in the Singer
biographies, one hears nothing further. Singer was parted from his own
son for twenty years without, so far as is known, any strenuous
attempts on his part to get in touch with the boy. Janet Hadda, one of
Singer's biographers, and not an unsympathetic one, remarks tersely:
"He was a negligent husband, an unfit father, and he knew it."
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Regards,
VI
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Areff
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:14 am
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Mickwick wrote:
| Quote: | I've only just found this corner of AUE. This article
http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_1_campus_conservatives.html
seems to imply that 'hookup' means 'casual sex', plain and simple.
Conservative students must also deal with the coed dorms and
hookup sex, drink-till-you?re-blitzed parties, and general
civilizational chaos of life at many schools ...
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She'll drink a bit, but random hookups are a big no. And she
gets flak for it. ?Many of my girlfriends describe their
sexual exploits in graphic detail and tell me that I need to get
over my ?penis fear,? ? she confides.
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Lots of students, she says, do eventually get into serious,
almost-married relationships at Princeton, but these often grow
out of ?repeated hookups.? ?Perhaps, in a way, it's like a
new kind of dating,? Mickel reflects wryly.
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?Binge drinking and hookups are pretty pervasive in collegiate
culture,? says Vanderbilt?s Anne Malinee.
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Even their support of homosexual civil unions may spring from
their rejection of the world of casual hookups, broken
marriages, and wounded children that liberalism has produced.
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?It's not uncommon for me to hear, even among conservatives,
something like this: ?I don't have time for a relationship, so
of course I hook up,? ? he reports.
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One thing to note is that this is "hookup" the noun. The usage I'm mainly
familiar with is the verb "to hook up (with)".
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Steny '08! |
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lightbulb
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:15 am
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"Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote in message
news:nSegZkBO7UECFw3M@shropshire.plus.com...
| Quote: | On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, lightbulb wrote:
"Aaron Davies" <aaron@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid> wrote in message
The current euphemism, incidentally, is "hook up", which, AFAICT,
represents anything between kissing and "heavy petting". I don't
*think*
it includes full intercourse, but ICBW.
'Round here, "to hook up" means:
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C) to pair or be paired up with another person, often as either a date
or
just for a quicky
"Man, I'd like to hook up with her!"
"Hey, hook me up with your sister and we'll call it even."
I've only just found this corner of AUE. This article
http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_1_campus_conservatives.html
seems to imply that 'hookup' means 'casual sex', plain and simple.
Conservative students must also deal with the coed dorms and
hookup sex, drink-till-you're-blitzed parties, and general
civilizational chaos of life at many schools ...
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Actually the article is using the very loose and idiotic term "hookup sex."
Modern writing anymore requires much of its readers and little of its
writers. "Hook up" can mean sex, but it doesn't usually. In this case, the
word "sex" was directly attached. Even if it was not, the meaning would
have been clear. References to sex enjoy what have to be the most liberal
of parameters. Any verbage can refer to sex with the right contextual
clues, be they college parties or a certain vocal inflection or a wink and a
nod. Almost any noun can refer to almost any sexual organ. To say that
"hook up" can't refer to "fuck" would be a futile argument. To say that it
doesn't usually would be somewhat useful to the person wondering after the
definition.
If you read the sentence "Hey man, you should hook me up with some tires"
and think, "well, sex with tires can't be any worse than the sex I've had
with women", I would say you've misunderstood something somewhere along the
way.
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Mickwick
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:16 am
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, lightbulb wrote:
| Quote: | "Aaron Davies" <aaron@avalon.pascal-central.com.invalid> wrote in message
The current euphemism, incidentally, is "hook up", which, AFAICT,
represents anything between kissing and "heavy petting". I don't *think*
it includes full intercourse, but ICBW.
'Round here, "to hook up" means:
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| Quote: | C) to pair or be paired up with another person, often as either a date or
just for a quicky
"Man, I'd like to hook up with her!"
"Hey, hook me up with your sister and we'll call it even."
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I've only just found this corner of AUE. This article
http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_1_campus_conservatives.html
seems to imply that 'hookup' means 'casual sex', plain and simple.
Conservative students must also deal with the coed dorms and
hookup sex, drink-till-you’re-blitzed parties, and general
civilizational chaos of life at many schools ...
....
She'll drink a bit, but random hookups are a big no. And she
gets flak for it. “Many of my girlfriends describe their
sexual exploits in graphic detail and tell me that I need to get
over my ‘penis fear,’ ” she confides.
....
Lots of students, she says, do eventually get into serious,
almost-married relationships at Princeton, but these often grow
out of “repeated hookups.” “Perhaps, in a way, it's like a
new kind of dating,” Mickel reflects wryly.
....
“Binge drinking and hookups are pretty pervasive in collegiate
culture,” says Vanderbilt’s Anne Malinee.
....
Even their support of homosexual civil unions may spring from
their rejection of the world of casual hookups, broken
marriages, and wounded children that liberalism has produced.
....
“It's not uncommon for me to hear, even among conservatives,
something like this: ‘I don't have time for a relationship, so
of course I hook up,’ ” he reports.
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don groves
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:37 am
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In article <37dd98F57urrlU1@individual.net>, Areff at
me@privacy.net hath writ:
| Quote: | Mickwick wrote:
I've only just found this corner of AUE. This article
http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_1_campus_conservatives.html
seems to imply that 'hookup' means 'casual sex', plain and simple.
One thing to note is that this is "hookup" the noun. The usage I'm mainly
familiar with is the verb "to hook up (with)".
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I see a single-panel cartoon. A staid couple are each reading,
ignoring the other. The woman is also sipping tea. The man
puffs a pipe. A thin wire connects their crotches.
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dg (domain=ccwebster) |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:49 am
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don groves filted:
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I see a single-panel cartoon. A staid couple are each reading,
ignoring the other. The woman is also sipping tea. The man
puffs a pipe. A thin wire connects their crotches.
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They got newsgroups for that kind of thing....r |
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