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Matti Lamprhey
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:15 am
Post subject: Singular introduction |
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I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4 introduce
a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
Matti |
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:51 am
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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Matti Lamprhey wrote:
| Quote: | I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4
introduce a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
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And, sad to report, BBC2tv now regularly say "Blah-blah-blah,
Thursday at eight o'clock."
Mike. |
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FB
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:53 am
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:51:00 -0000, Mike Lyle wrote:
| Quote: | Matti Lamprhey wrote:
I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4
introduce a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
And, sad to report, BBC2tv now regularly say "Blah-blah-blah,
Thursday at eight o'clock."
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As you may know, English is not my mother tongue. I'm afraid I get neither
mistake -- for I suppose there must be.
Bye, FB
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In any case, if you say 'I gotta go' at an important job interview you're
contributing to being allowed just that privilege.
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Matti Lamprhey
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:12 am
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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"FB" <fam.balducciNOSPAM@tin.it> wrote...
| Quote: | Mike Lyle wrote:
Matti Lamprhey wrote:
I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4
introduce a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
And, sad to report, BBC2tv now regularly say "Blah-blah-blah,
Thursday at eight o'clock."
As you may know, English is not my mother tongue. I'm afraid I get
neither mistake -- for I suppose there must be.
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Mine should have been "Now here ARE Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks..."
Mike's should (for Britain, at least) have been "Blah -blah-blah, ON
Thursday at eight o'clock."
Matti |
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Skitt
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:48 am
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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Matti Lamprhey rakstija:
| Quote: | "FB" wrote...
Mike Lyle wrote:
Matti Lamprhey wrote:
I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4
introduce a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
And, sad to report, BBC2tv now regularly say "Blah-blah-blah,
Thursday at eight o'clock."
As you may know, English is not my mother tongue. I'm afraid I get
neither mistake -- for I suppose there must be.
Mine should have been "Now here ARE Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks..."
Mike's should (for Britain, at least) have been "Blah -blah-blah, ON
Thursday at eight o'clock."
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Ah, they're becoming Americanized, that's all. Besides, did you want them
to say "Here're Greg ..."?
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/ |
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:29 am
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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"Matti Lamprhey" <matti@official-totally-reversed.com> wrote in message
news:2v26b9F2g05t8U1@uni-berlin.de...
| Quote: | I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4 introduce
a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
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Not very RPC, is it? |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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Matti Lamprhey filted:
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I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4 introduce
a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
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Perfectly fine...you just misidentified what part of the utterance was the
title:
"Now here's _Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with This Week's Veg Talk_"....r |
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Matti Lamprhey
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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"Skitt" <skitt99@comcast.net> wrote...
| Quote: | Matti Lamprhey rakstija:
"FB" wrote...
Mike Lyle wrote:
Matti Lamprhey wrote:
I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4
introduce a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
And, sad to report, BBC2tv now regularly say "Blah-blah-blah,
Thursday at eight o'clock."
As you may know, English is not my mother tongue. I'm afraid I get
neither mistake -- for I suppose there must be.
Mine should have been "Now here ARE Greg Wallis and Charlie
Hicks..."
Mike's should (for Britain, at least) have been "Blah -blah-blah, ON
Thursday at eight o'clock."
Ah, they're becoming Americanized, that's all. Besides, did you want
them to say "Here're Greg ..."?
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That would have been unremarkable.
Matti |
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Skitt
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:04 am
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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Matti Lamprhey rakstija:
| Quote: | "Skitt" wrote...
Matti Lamprhey rakstija:
"FB" wrote...
Mike Lyle wrote:
Matti Lamprhey wrote:
I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4
introduce a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's _Veg
Talk_..."
And, sad to report, BBC2tv now regularly say "Blah-blah-blah,
Thursday at eight o'clock."
As you may know, English is not my mother tongue. I'm afraid I get
neither mistake -- for I suppose there must be.
Mine should have been "Now here ARE Greg Wallis and Charlie
Hicks..."
Mike's should (for Britain, at least) have been "Blah -blah-blah, ON
Thursday at eight o'clock."
Ah, they're becoming Americanized, that's all. Besides, did you want
them to say "Here're Greg ..."?
That would have been unremarkable.
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Only if they manage to pronounce it without sounding like they said
"therrrrr". Mind you, I'm not advocating "there is", but "there's" is a
common contraction for both singular and plural usage. You must have missed
the previous threads on this. It's that, or you just like to argue. Is
BBC2tv supposed to be a shining example of formal usage?
--
Skitt (celebrating the completion of his 7th year in AUE) |
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:00 am
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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Skitt wrote:
| Quote: | Matti Lamprhey rakstija:
"Skitt" wrote...
Matti Lamprhey rakstija:
"FB" wrote...
Mike Lyle wrote:
Matti Lamprhey wrote:
I've just heard a very RP continuity announcer on BBC Radio 4
introduce a programme thus:
"Now here's Greg Wallis and Charlie Hicks with this week's
_Veg
Talk_..."
And, sad to report, BBC2tv now regularly say "Blah-blah-blah,
Thursday at eight o'clock."
As you may know, English is not my mother tongue. I'm afraid I
get
neither mistake -- for I suppose there must be.
Mine should have been "Now here ARE Greg Wallis and Charlie
Hicks..."
Mike's should (for Britain, at least) have been
"Blah -blah-blah,
ON Thursday at eight o'clock."
Ah, they're becoming Americanized, that's all. Besides, did you
want them to say "Here're Greg ..."?
That would have been unremarkable.
Only if they manage to pronounce it without sounding like they said
"therrrrr". Mind you, I'm not advocating "there is", but "there's"
is a common contraction for both singular and plural usage. You
must
have missed the previous threads on this. It's that, or you just
like to argue. Is BBC2tv supposed to be a shining example of
formal
usage?
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Not exactly; but they do try to be proper without sounding pompous*.
This was Radio4, though: and they get inundated with correspondence
every time they put a foot anything like conceivably maybe slightly
not quite standard. It's like AUE on paper in there, I can tell you.
Matti and I, among others, deprecate as vile the omission of "on"
before days of the week. But I wouldn't have objected if the voice
had said "Thursday, eight o'clock." That's just brisk and efficient.
But if you're going to say "at" before the time, you've got to say
"on" before the day. Don't know how Matti feels about this, but I
suspect...
*Back in the sixties, an Okie friend in Libya said he thought the BBC
World Service newsreaders sounded "half mad" (he meant the "angry",
not the "insane" sense). He wanted a radio equivalent of the American
smile. But ABC (Aus, not Am) and BBC listeners don't want that unless
the guy's saying something _funny_: we know they're our friends,
dammit, or we wouldn't be listening. Straying further OT, one of the
BBC's captive American actors, Kerry Shale, does a funny AusBC
announcer by playing it utterly straight.
Mike. |
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FB
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:02 am
Post subject: Re: Singular introduction |
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 12:04:45 -0800, Skitt wrote:
| Quote: | Only if they manage to pronounce it without sounding like they said
"therrrrr".
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"Here're" is not difficult to pronounce (['hi@r3:]), at least for
non-rhotic speakers, such as BBC's, is it? Anyway, "here's" and "there's"
used for a plural subject don't sound wrong to this non-native speaker.
Just colloquial.
Bye, FB
--
Conversation like television set on honeymoon: unnecessary.
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