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John Varela
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:16 am
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:19:39 UTC, "Matti Lamprhey"
<matti@official-totally-reversed.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "John Varela" <OLDlamps@earthlink.net> wrote...
Titleists are made by a company called Acushnet, which is evidently
named after a river in Massachusetts. http://www.acushnet.com/
Why did you say "named after" instead of "named for"?
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I don't know, I've never thought about it. It's just the way I say it.
Having now thought about it for the first time, I think "for" carries an
implication of "for the purpose of" or "for the benefit of". Naming someone
"for" a grandfather honors the grandfather, thus doing something for him, but
naming a company after a river does nothing for the river.
However, I expect I will continue to indiscriminately say "after" without
making any such distinctions.
--
John Varela
(Trade "OLD" lamps for "NEW" for email.)
I apologize for munging the address but the spam was too much. |
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Michael J Hardy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:49 am
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Matti Lamprhey (matti@official-totally-reversed.com) wrote:
| Quote: | "John Varela" <OLDlamps@earthlink.net> wrote...
Titleists are made by a company called Acushnet, which is evidently
named after a river in Massachusetts. http://www.acushnet.com/
Why did you say "named after" instead of "named for"?
"She was only a chemist's daughter,
but she was famous for her titrations."
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I've always said "named after". I can tolerate "named for"
and possibly even be persuaded to accept that in some dialects
it is standard, but it doesn't come naturally to me. -- Mike Hardy |
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Michael J Hardy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:51 am
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Bob Cunningham (exw6sxq@earthlink.net) wrote:
[ a certain word ]
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Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of men?
-- Mike Hardy |
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Michael J Hardy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:53 am
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the Omrud (usenet.omrud@gmail.com) wrote:
| Quote: | I use both. "named for" is more complementary to the original holder
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Huh? Did you mean "complimentary", with an "i". That's
a different word from "complementary" with an "e"; it means
quite a different thing. -- Mike Hardy |
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Bob Cunningham
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:00 am
Post subject: "named for" and "named after" revisited [was: Re: It took 20 |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:51:36 GMT, Bob Cunningham
<exw6sxq@earthlink.net> said:
[...]
| Quote: | Why did you say "named after" instead of "named for"?
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| Quote: | So far as I know they mean about the same, but I might use
"named after" for persons and "named for" for inanimate
etyma.
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My subconscious apparently started working on that remark
after I posted it, because my headbone is whispering to me
that I should have said more:
When I spoke the language I was first taught to speak, UNUPS
(Uncorrupted Northern Utah Prestige Standard*), I think I
used to use "named after" exclusively. The more I think
about it, the more "named for" still sounds a little foreign
to me.
* "Uncorrupted", that is, by association with New Yorkers
and other speakers of inferior dialects. |
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Bob Cunningham
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:10 am
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On 16 Jan 2005 23:51:00 GMT, mjhardy@mit.edu (Michael J
Hardy) said:
| Quote: | Bob Cunningham (exw6sxq@earthlink.net) wrote:
I like
[ a certain word ]
because of its mishyphen potentiality.
Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of men?
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All I said was that "titlist" has more mishyphen
potentiality than "titleist". What's evil about a tit list?
Is a robin list or a sparrow list also evil?
From _Webster's New World College Dicitonary Fourth
Edition_:
tit(1)
n.
a [...] small bird |
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Skitt
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:18 am
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Bob Cunningham wrote:
| Quote: | (Michael J Hardy) said:
Bob Cunningham wrote:
I like
[ a certain word ]
because of its mishyphen potentiality.
Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of men?
All I said was that "titlist" has more mishyphen
potentiality than "titleist". What's evil about a tit list?
Is a robin list or a sparrow list also evil?
From _Webster's New World College Dicitonary Fourth
Edition_:
tit(1)
n.
a [...] small bird
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Ah, you make more birdies with a Titleist.
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/ |
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Bob Cunningham
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:32 am
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:18:22 -0800, "Skitt"
<skitt99@comcast.net> said:
| Quote: | Bob Cunningham wrote:
(Michael J Hardy) said:
Bob Cunningham wrote:
I like
[ a certain word ]
because of its mishyphen potentiality.
Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of men?
All I said was that "titlist" has more mishyphen
potentiality than "titleist". What's evil about a tit list?
Is a robin list or a sparrow list also evil?
From _Webster's New World College Dicitonary Fourth
Edition_:
tit(1)
n.
a [...] small bird
Ah, you make more birdies with a Titleist.
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I'll bet tits are real good at making birdies. |
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:14 am
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:18:22 -0800, "Skitt" <skitt99@comcast.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | Bob Cunningham wrote:
(Michael J Hardy) said:
Bob Cunningham wrote:
I like
[ a certain word ]
because of its mishyphen potentiality.
Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of men?
All I said was that "titlist" has more mishyphen
potentiality than "titleist". What's evil about a tit list?
Is a robin list or a sparrow list also evil?
From _Webster's New World College Dicitonary Fourth
Edition_:
tit(1)
n.
a [...] small bird
Ah, you make more birdies with a Titleist.
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Personally, I hit more wounded ducks (a term for a ball that was hit
and mimics the flight of a wounded duck) and worm-burners. |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:14 am
Post subject: Re: "named for" and "named after" revisited [was: Re: It too |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:00:28 GMT, Bob Cunningham <exw6sxq@earthlink.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:51:36 GMT, Bob Cunningham
exw6sxq@earthlink.net> said:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:19:39 -0000, "Matti Lamprhey"
matti@official-totally-reversed.com> said:
[...]
Why did you say "named after" instead of "named for"?
[...]
So far as I know they mean about the same, but I might use
"named after" for persons and "named for" for inanimate
etyma.
My subconscious apparently started working on that remark
after I posted it, because my headbone is whispering to me
that I should have said more:
When I spoke the language I was first taught to speak, UNUPS
(Uncorrupted Northern Utah Prestige Standard*), I think I
used to use "named after" exclusively. The more I think
about it, the more "named for" still sounds a little foreign
to me.
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And I still distinguish between persons, things and qualities.
He was named Robert after his grandfather.
It was named Brakwater for the salty water found there.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:15 am
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:18:22 -0800, "Skitt" <skitt99@comcast.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | Bob Cunningham wrote:
(Michael J Hardy) said:
Bob Cunningham wrote:
I like
[ a certain word ]
because of its mishyphen potentiality.
Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of men?
All I said was that "titlist" has more mishyphen
potentiality than "titleist". What's evil about a tit list?
Is a robin list or a sparrow list also evil?
From _Webster's New World College Dicitonary Fourth
Edition_:
tit(1)
n.
a [...] small bird
Ah, you make more birdies with a Titleist.
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Maybe, but there's more boids on Hugh Graham's titlist, and they are
all sinkers I betcha. |
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:57 pm
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Michael J Hardy typed thusly:
| Quote: | the Omrud (usenet.omrud@gmail.com) wrote:
I use both. "named for" is more complementary to the original holder
Huh? Did you mean "complimentary", with an "i". That's
a different word from "complementary" with an "e"; it means
quite a different thing. -- Mike Hardy
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Of course. I was oyed for this two hours after mis-typing it.
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David
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Robin Bignall
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:02 pm
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:57:08 -0000, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Michael J Hardy typed thusly:
the Omrud (usenet.omrud@gmail.com) wrote:
I use both. "named for" is more complementary to the original holder
Huh? Did you mean "complimentary", with an "i". That's
a different word from "complementary" with an "e"; it means
quite a different thing. -- Mike Hardy
Of course. I was oyed for this two hours after mis-typing it.
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TIC!
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wrmst rgrds
Robin Bignall
Hertfordshire
England |
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