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Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod?

 
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T. Z.
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:24 am    Post subject: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod? Reply with quote

I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

Paraphrase of the sentence:
Who'd care that the local HUD chairman had used hoe,
mumbled, and hid his coal-container?

Is there a famous sentence like that?
Kind of like "Quick brown fox ...lazy dog"?





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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:52:23 -0500, Ben Zimmer
<bgzimmer@midway.uchicago.edu> said:

[...]

Quote:
Perhaps, in an attempt to greet as many locals as possible, the 'hood
HUD head had also hi-ed, hey-ed, hoy-ed, and how-ed (said "hi", "hey",
"hoy", and "how")...

After the hood had hi-ed, hey-ed, hoy-ed, and howed, the
hard horde head said "Huh?"

No one paid him any heed. So he hid his hod.

A speaker pronounces "Heed hid hayed head had how'd hide hod
hawed hoard HUD hood hoed who'd" at
http://alt-usage-english.org/Fontana_fourteen.html .
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

R H Draney wrote:
Quote:

Rolleston filted:

Robert Lieblich wrote:
"T. Z." wrote:

I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

Assuming you want every vowel sound including diphthongs, you're
missing "hide" and "haid" (Charles Haid, American actor, best known
for role in "Hill Street Blues") [...]

Is "haid" a verb too? I know of "hayed".

For the non-rhotic, you could also add "heard" (or "herd")...which
becomes the diphthong "hoid" in Brooklynish...and if you're going to
that much trouble, you need "hard" and "hoard"/"horde" as well....

As regards diphthongs, good luck cramming "howed" in there....r

Perhaps, in an attempt to greet as many locals as possible, the 'hood
HUD head had also hi-ed, hey-ed, hoy-ed, and how-ed (said "hi", "hey",
"hoy", and "how")...
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

Rolleston filted:
Quote:

Robert Lieblich wrote:
"T. Z." wrote:

I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

Assuming you want every vowel sound including diphthongs, you're
missing "hide" and "haid" (Charles Haid, American actor, best known
for role in "Hill Street Blues") [...]

Is "haid" a verb too? I know of "hayed".

For the non-rhotic, you could also add "heard" (or "herd")...which becomes the
diphthong "hoid" in Brooklynish...and if you're going to that much trouble, you
need "hard" and "hoard"/"horde" as well....

As regards diphthongs, good luck cramming "howed" in there....r
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

Rolleston wrote:
Quote:

Robert Lieblich wrote:
"T. Z." wrote:

I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

Assuming you want every vowel sound including diphthongs, you're
missing "hide" and "haid" (Charles Haid, American actor, best known
for role in "Hill Street Blues") [...]

Is "haid" a verb too? I know of "hayed".

"Haid" is either a proper name or a phonetic rendering of some
dialectical pronunciations of "head." The OP asked about verbs,
but he used some nouns and some contractions (or whatever you call
"'hood") as well, so it seemed [litotes alert] not unreasonable to
offer him any qualifying word with a vowel sound he had omitted. I
certainly don't object to substituing "hayed" for "haid," even if it
does make more sense.

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Bob Lieblich
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Peter T. Daniels
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

T. Z. wrote:
Quote:

I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

Paraphrase of the sentence:
Who'd care that the local HUD chairman had used hoe,
mumbled, and hid his coal-container?

Why spoil it with "his"?

Quote:
Is there a famous sentence like that?
Kind of like "Quick brown fox ...lazy dog"?

There is now.

I don't think anyone's come up with a monosyllable showing _all_ the
vowels contrasting between the same pair of consonants (let alone making
a sentence from them).
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Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net
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Rolleston
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

Robert Lieblich wrote:
Quote:
"T. Z." wrote:

I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

Assuming you want every vowel sound including diphthongs, you're
missing "hide" and "haid" (Charles Haid, American actor, best known
for role in "Hill Street Blues") [...]

Is "haid" a verb too? I know of "hayed".

R.
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Robert Lieblich
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

[sci.lang trimmed; can you imagine Peter Daniels' reaction to this?]

"T. Z." wrote:

Quote:
I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

Assuming you want every vowel sound including diphthongs, you're
missing "hide" and "haid" (Charles Haid, American actor, best known
for role in "Hill Street Blues") and "hewed." And maybe a couple
more I haven't thought of.

Quote:
Paraphrase of the sentence:
Who'd care that the local HUD chairman had used hoe,
mumbled, and hid his coal-container?

I never would have guessed.

Quote:
Is there a famous sentence like that?
Kind of like "Quick brown fox ...lazy dog"?

Not that I can think of. And with all respect for your effort, I
don't think you've plugged the gap.

--
Bob Lieblich
Whose haid is achin'
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

Peter T. Daniels wrote
Quote:
I don't think anyone's come up with a monosyllable showing _all_ the
vowels contrasting between the same pair of consonants (let alone

making
a sentence from them).

In "Our Language", Simeon Potter has a go, using initial [b] and final
[d], at covering the pure vowels and diphthongs in RP. He comes close
to covering them all.

[bi:d] bead
[bId] bid
[bEd] bed
[b&d] bad
[bA:d] bard
['bA.dI] body
[bO:d] board
[bUd] bud (Northern) [i.e. northern England]
[bu:d] booed
[bVd] bud (Southern) [i.e. southern England]
[bV"d] bird
['kVb@d] cupboard
[beId] bayed
[boud] bode
[baId] bide
[baud] bowed
[bOId] buoyed, Boyd
[bI@d] beard
[bE@d] bared, Baird
[bO@d] bored
[kju@d] cured

My ASCII IPA transcriptions are Potter's, translated directly into
ASCII IPA, so I use [I] in diphthongs and in "body", because he uses
the small-cap-I symbol. He uses the one-storey "a" symbol for "bard"
and the two-storey "a" symbol in diphthongs.

Since the accent he represented is "court-is-caught", he uses "board"
for the vowel of "caught"; fortunately, there is "bawd" for that. This
accent is "fir-is-fur", too; will "bird" and "burd" serve to make the
distinction?

Can perfection be attained, using only monosyllables and always the
same initial and final consonants? I doubt it. There is an inevitable
problem in that any syllable whose vowel is schwa, in an English word,
is unstressed; what's to be done? Use a word such as "a" or use an
unstressed syllable of a polysyllabic word? Potter needed
pronunciations of the same word in different accents to cover [V] and
[U]. If this dodge is not allowed, then distinguishing between these
two vowels will be hard, as there are not many minimal pairs for this
pair of vowels.
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

On 30-Dec-2004, "T. Z." <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>
wrote in message <20041231022458.23128.qmail@web52106.mail.yahoo.com>:

Quote:
I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

"hayed"?

Quote:
Paraphrase of the sentence:
Who'd care that the local HUD chairman had used hoe,
mumbled, and hid his coal-container?

Is there a famous sentence like that?
Kind of like "Quick brown fox ...lazy dog"?



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Peter Duncanson
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:24:58 -0800 (PST), "T. Z."
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

Quote:


I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

(Did I miss any verbs?)

'Hied'?

Quote:

Paraphrase of the sentence:
Who'd care that the local HUD chairman had used hoe,
mumbled, and hid his coal-container?

Is there a famous sentence like that?
Kind of like "Quick brown fox ...lazy dog"?





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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:56 am    Post subject: Re: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod Reply with quote

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:34:08 -0500, Robert Lieblich
<Robert.Lieblich@Verizon.net> wrote:

Quote:
[sci.lang trimmed; can you imagine Peter Daniels' reaction to this?]

"T. Z." wrote:

I just made this up:
Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his
hod?

Is there a famous sentence like that?
Kind of like "Quick brown fox ...lazy dog"?

Not that I can think of. And with all respect for your effort, I
don't think you've plugged the gap.

I don't know, but are you HINHINHINHINHINHINH?

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