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David
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:24 am
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In article <s0a7s09sd0ia52ge3g5cutj5647h20sbja@4ax.com>,
Giles Todd <g@prullenbak.todd.nu> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:49:39 +0000 (GMT), David
david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote:
Got it in one: Good lad!
And there was I thinking that 'churchyard', 'hairnet' and 'fishwife'
were compound nouns. Silly me.
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So, you thought that "hair" and "net" had equivalence? Would have, I
suppose, were the net to be a net made of hair rather than a net for
the hair; and were you confusing tales of mermaids in thinking of those
wives as fishes?
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"You are not a complete man," she said to him.
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Phil C.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:49 pm
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:31:40 GMT, "John Briggs"
<john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I don't think it's possible to pronounce two short "o"s 
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I've known some ladies that would make you change your mind. However,
for two long "o"s we are forever indebted to Florrie Ford -
http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/o/ohohantonio.shtml
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Phil C.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:49 pm
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:53:06 +0000, Molly Mockford
<nospamnobody@mollymockford.me.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | At 00:41:36 on Sat, 18 Dec 2004, einde. ocallaghan <"einde.
ocallaghan"@planet-interkom.de> wrote in
32h8poF3m8c6gU1@individual.net>:
Giles Todd wrote:
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:19:16 +0000 (GMT), David
david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote:
"churchyard", "hairnet", or
"fishwife"?
Those will be the adjectival forms of 'church', 'fish' and 'hair',
right?
Well, some grammarialns actually do speak of the adjectival use of the
noun in combinations like "post office" or "microwave oven".
Now I'm struggling back to school again, where we considered the
"smoking jacket". And if it was actually about to burst into flames,
then "smoking" was an adjective. But if it was being worn by a prat (OK
they didn't specifically say that) then "smoking" would be either a
gerund or a gerundive, but I've forgotten which.
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A participle (verb functioning as adjective)? A gerund is verb
functioning as noun, if you mind mind my *saying*. A gerundive is one
of them Latin "requiring to be" thingies. Ask Amanda or Miranda - they
may know more about it and are requiring of love and admiration.
They're out on the veranda (which is actually form Hindi) with a panda
(Nepalese) with Belinda (Germanic) discussing their agenda (ah,
there's one).
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:12 am
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How about no'ne?
Ivan |
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einde. ocallaghan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:26 am
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vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | How about no'ne?
The pronunciation would be wrong. |
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:22 am
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vorotynt...@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | How about no'ne?
The pronunciation would be wrong.
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
You mean pronunciation always follows spelling in English? |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:24 am
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vorotynt...@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | How about no'ne?
The pronunciation would be wrong.
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
You mean pronunciation always follows spelling in English? |
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Giles Todd
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:40 am
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:24:56 +0000 (GMT), David
<david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote:
| Quote: | So, you thought that "hair" and "net" had equivalence? Would have, I
suppose, were the net to be a net made of hair rather than a net for
the hair; and were you confusing tales of mermaids in thinking of those
wives as fishes?
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Only in your dreams, sonny.
Giles. |
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einde. ocallaghan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:17 am
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vorotyntsev@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | vorotynt...@yahoo.com wrote:
How about no'ne?
The pronunciation would be wrong.
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
You mean pronunciation always follows spelling in English?
No, but "no'ne" would only have one syllable, whereas "no one" has two. |
English pronunciation tends to leave out syllables that are written, not
insert ones that aren't written, e.g. "Wednesday" and "evening" are two
syllable words.
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan |
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John Mazor
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:15 am
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"John Briggs" <john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:5Pzwd.227$sl.126@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
| Quote: | John Mazor wrote:
"John Hall" <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qern3yKcWewBFwbi@jhall.demon.co.uk...
In article <gfrgL3+f6dwBFwqb@molly.mockford>,
Molly Mockford <nospamnobody@mollymockford.me.uk> writes:
At 08:58:27 on Thu, 16 Dec 2004, David <david@dacha.freeuk.com
wrote in <4d1e1bf5f3david@dacha.freeuk.com>:
In article <BumdnVjX2IIiRF3cRVn-pA@rcn.net>, John Mazor
mazorj@erols.com> wrote:
No one I've ever read has used it in any form other than two
words, but then, I'm a product of the American education system
and culture.
So are most of the folks I've seen using the term "a lot" in the
form of a single word. No body (sic) I know personally does that.
But the UK can't, unfortunately, wriggle out of "It'll be Alright
on the Night".
I'm afraid that the battle to retain "all right" as two words has
already been lost. It's not obvious why it should be two words when
"altogether", for example, is not.
Several times over the last year I have seen "upto" written as a
single word, which I find rather alarming.
Up to now, I've never seen that usage. But I've given up on arguing
against calling a Web site a website. Too many Gen-X and Gen-Y
writers have adopted it.
Ah, but do you call a weblog a 'we blog'?
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Now there's a thought.
In southern Maryland there's a scattered but very clannish community of
related families, a mix of white/black background, most of which have one of
about five or six family names. They're called Wesorts, as in "we sorts."
And in the past, they were known to get upset if "you sorts" tried to date
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David
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:14 am
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In article <iuf9s0d2dqtu6kttpilvr4a4fnc9oib1f3@4ax.com>, Giles Todd
<g@prullenbak.todd.nu> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:24:56 +0000 (GMT), David
david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote:
So, you thought that "hair" and "net" had equivalence? Would have,
I suppose, were the net to be a net made of hair rather than a net
for the hair; and were you confusing tales of mermaids in thinking
of those wives as fishes?
Only in your dreams, sonny.
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Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:31 pm
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On Saturday, in article <4d1f260ea3david@dacha.freeuk.com>
david@dacha.freeuk.com "David" wrote:
| Quote: | In article <s0a7s09sd0ia52ge3g5cutj5647h20sbja@4ax.com>,
Giles Todd <g@prullenbak.todd.nu> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:49:39 +0000 (GMT), David
david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote:
Got it in one: Good lad!
And there was I thinking that 'churchyard', 'hairnet' and 'fishwife'
were compound nouns. Silly me.
So, you thought that "hair" and "net" had equivalence? Would have, I
suppose, were the net to be a net made of hair rather than a net for
the hair; and were you confusing tales of mermaids in thinking of those
wives as fishes?
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Well, the alewife is a fish
<g,r&dfc>
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Molly Mockford
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:15 pm
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At 01:17:37 on Sun, 19 Dec 2004, einde. ocallaghan <"einde.
ocallaghan"@planet-interkom.de> wrote in
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| Quote: | English pronunciation tends to leave out syllables that are written,
not insert ones that aren't written, e.g. "Wednesday" and "evening" are
two syllable words.
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Depends on the accept. I (middle-class Edinburgh, close to RP, overlaid
by Sussex) say both of those as three syllables. However, I do say
"Wedensday" for "Wednesday", and the second e in "evening" as a time of
day is there, even if only just there - it is of course firmly in place
if I am evening out the sheet on the bed! I don't even say "Parlament"
- I do use only three syllables, but I tend to say "Parly[schwa]ment",
rather like the way I think a double L in Spanish is pronounced (I may
be wrong here)(or just boring).
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Molly Mockford
I think I've been too long on my own, but the little green goblin that
lives under the sink says I'm OK - and he's never wrong, so I must be!
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David
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:33 pm
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In article <Y1gOxV61KWxBFwX7@molly.mockford>, Molly Mockford
<nospamnobody@mollymockford.me.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | At 01:17:37 on Sun, 19 Dec 2004, einde. ocallaghan <"einde.
ocallaghan"@planet-interkom.de> wrote in
32jv9cF3neio0U1@individual.net>:
English pronunciation tends to leave out syllables that are written,
not insert ones that aren't written, e.g. "Wednesday" and "evening"
are two syllable words.
Depends on the accept.
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That pronunciation would indicate very strange accent. ;-)
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xenyinzen
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:12 am
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No one, but everyone.
"David" <david@dacha.freeuk.com> 写入消息新闻
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| Quote: | In article <Y1gOxV61KWxBFwX7@molly.mockford>, Molly Mockford
nospamnobody@mollymockford.me.uk> wrote:
At 01:17:37 on Sun, 19 Dec 2004, einde. ocallaghan <"einde.
ocallaghan"@planet-interkom.de> wrote in
32jv9cF3neio0U1@individual.net>:
English pronunciation tends to leave out syllables that are written,
not insert ones that aren't written, e.g. "Wednesday" and "evening"
are two syllable words.
Depends on the accept.
That pronunciation would indicate very strange accent. ;-)
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