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Gunter Kuhnle
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:08 am
Post subject: 'Queen's Service' |
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Hallo,
a newspaper article I read recently mentioned the weblog of a soldier in
Iraq who posted an letter by his commanding officer. In this letter, the
officer used the phrase 'leaving the Queen's service', although I
assumed that he must have been American (all references where clearly to
the US).
Is this expression a standard expression in the Armed Forces?
Thank you!
Best wishes,
Gunter
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John Briggs
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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Gunter Kuhnle wrote:
| Quote: | Hallo,
a newspaper article I read recently mentioned the weblog of a soldier
in Iraq who posted an letter by his commanding officer. In this
letter, the officer used the phrase 'leaving the Queen's service',
although I assumed that he must have been American (all references
where clearly to the US).
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He can't have been American.
| Quote: | Is this expression a standard expression in the Armed Forces?
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Quite possibly - but only for countries which have a Queen. Which would
include Australia, of course.
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John Briggs |
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Rotes Sapiens
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:11 am
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:11:57 GMT, "John Briggs"
<john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Gunter Kuhnle wrote:
Hallo,
a newspaper article I read recently mentioned the weblog of a soldier
in Iraq who posted an letter by his commanding officer. In this
letter, the officer used the phrase 'leaving the Queen's service',
although I assumed that he must have been American (all references
where clearly to the US).
He can't have been American.
Is this expression a standard expression in the Armed Forces?
Quite possibly - but only for countries which have a Queen. Which would
include Australia, of course.
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There is a strong possibility that the soldier was Canadian, which has
the same queen. At least the English speaking parts do. That is to
say that Canada is part of the Commonwealth.
Sig:
I have a brain the size of a planet. It's not much good to me, however. It's on a different planet.
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einde. ocallaghan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:11 am
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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Rotes Sapiens wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:11:57 GMT, "John Briggs"
john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Gunter Kuhnle wrote:
Hallo,
a newspaper article I read recently mentioned the weblog of a soldier
in Iraq who posted an letter by his commanding officer. In this
letter, the officer used the phrase 'leaving the Queen's service',
although I assumed that he must have been American (all references
where clearly to the US).
He can't have been American.
Is this expression a standard expression in the Armed Forces?
Quite possibly - but only for countries which have a Queen. Which would
include Australia, of course.
There is a strong possibility that the soldier was Canadian, which has
the same queen. At least the English speaking parts do. That is to
say that Canada is part of the Commonwealth.
Officially the Queen of England is alo the Queen of Canada (all of it - |
not just the English-speaking parts).
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan |
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David
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:59 am
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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In article <MPG.1c2a0f0d7660462398ab33@news.individual.net>, the Omrud
<usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Rotes Sapiens typed thus:
There is a strong possibility that the soldier was Canadian, which
has the same queen. At least the English speaking parts do. That
is to say that Canada is part of the Commonwealth.
Elizabeth Windsor, who happens to be Queen of England, is the head of
state of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other countries. The
Commonwealth is irrelevant here - India and South Africa are not
monarchies.
And you can't really be suggesting that Canadians' head of state is
different depending on what language they speak?
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Wouldn't she be "La Reine" to French speakers?
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The legs collapse at hip and knee,
The backbone shatter into three... |
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:06 pm
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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Rotes Sapiens typed thus:
| Quote: | On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:11:57 GMT, "John Briggs"
john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Gunter Kuhnle wrote:
Hallo,
a newspaper article I read recently mentioned the weblog of a soldier
in Iraq who posted an letter by his commanding officer. In this
letter, the officer used the phrase 'leaving the Queen's service',
although I assumed that he must have been American (all references
where clearly to the US).
He can't have been American.
Is this expression a standard expression in the Armed Forces?
Quite possibly - but only for countries which have a Queen. Which would
include Australia, of course.
There is a strong possibility that the soldier was Canadian, which has
the same queen. At least the English speaking parts do. That is to
say that Canada is part of the Commonwealth.
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Elizabeth Windsor, who happens to be Queen of England, is the head of
state of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other countries. The
Commonwealth is irrelevant here - India and South Africa are not
monarchies.
And you can't really be suggesting that Canadians' head of state is
different depending on what language they speak?
--
David
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replace the first component of address
with the definite article. |
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John Briggs
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:16 pm
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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Rotes Sapiens wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:11:57 GMT, "John Briggs"
john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Gunter Kuhnle wrote:
Hallo,
a newspaper article I read recently mentioned the weblog of a
soldier in Iraq who posted an letter by his commanding officer. In
this letter, the officer used the phrase 'leaving the Queen's
service', although I assumed that he must have been American (all
references where clearly to the US).
He can't have been American.
Is this expression a standard expression in the Armed Forces?
Quite possibly - but only for countries which have a Queen. Which
would include Australia, of course.
There is a strong possibility that the soldier was Canadian, which has
the same queen. At least the English speaking parts do. That is to
say that Canada is part of the Commonwealth.
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I would say that the possibility was weak, because I am not aware of any
Canadian soldiers being in Iraq 
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Voicer
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:46 am
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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"David" <david@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:4d1d9db7e7david@dacha.freeuk.com...
| Quote: | In article <MPG.1c2a0f0d7660462398ab33@news.individual.net>, the Omrud
usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote:
Rotes Sapiens typed thus:
There is a strong possibility that the soldier was Canadian, which
has the same queen. At least the English speaking parts do. That
is to say that Canada is part of the Commonwealth.
Elizabeth Windsor, who happens to be Queen of England, is the head of
state of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other countries. The
Commonwealth is irrelevant here - India and South Africa are not
monarchies.
And you can't really be suggesting that Canadians' head of state is
different depending on what language they speak?
Wouldn't she be "La Reine" to French speakers?
--
http://www.dacha.freeuk.com/aureole/60-mandy.htm
The eyes pop out in agony,
The legs collapse at hip and knee,
The backbone shatter into three...
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Even Quebec separatist parliamentarians take an oath to the Queen when they
are installed, although some tend to mutter it quickly.
And for added confusion, in Montreal, there is a hotel called "Le Reine
Elizabeth" The "Le" referring to hotel not her majesty.
And a Canadian film called Elizabeth Rex has just won an award. |
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Rotes Sapiens
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:45 am
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:06:56 -0000, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Rotes Sapiens typed thus:
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:11:57 GMT, "John Briggs"
john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Gunter Kuhnle wrote:
Hallo,
a newspaper article I read recently mentioned the weblog of a soldier
in Iraq who posted an letter by his commanding officer. In this
letter, the officer used the phrase 'leaving the Queen's service',
although I assumed that he must have been American (all references
where clearly to the US).
He can't have been American.
Is this expression a standard expression in the Armed Forces?
Quite possibly - but only for countries which have a Queen. Which would
include Australia, of course.
There is a strong possibility that the soldier was Canadian, which has
the same queen. At least the English speaking parts do. That is to
say that Canada is part of the Commonwealth.
Elizabeth Windsor, who happens to be Queen of England, is the head of
state of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other countries. The
Commonwealth is irrelevant here - India and South Africa are not
monarchies.
And you can't really be suggesting that Canadians' head of state is
different depending on what language they speak?
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That bit was tongue-in-cheek.
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moi
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:15 am
Post subject: Re: 'Queen's Service' |
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"einde. ocallaghan" <"einde. ocallaghan"@planet-interkom.de> wrote in
message news:329mltF3jsce4U1@individual.net...
| Quote: | Rotes Sapiens wrote:
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:11:57 GMT, "John Briggs"
john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Officially the Queen of England is alo the Queen of Canada (all of it -
not just the English-speaking parts).
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And officially there is no such thing as the Queen of England - her official
title in the UK is "Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Her other Realms and
Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith."
Nothing in that about being "Queen of England" or indeed "Scotland" as both
those monarchies are now united under the "Great Britain" part in the
present title.
In Canada her title is "Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the
United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of
the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith." |
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