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curious J
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:06 am    Post subject: lie Reply with quote

I'm confused about the word, lie.
There's several words like lay, lain, laying, and lied.
Though I've looked up in the dictionary, I don't clearly get the difference
between these words and often get confused.

Please tell me their appropriate usage possibly with some examples.

Thanks.

Curious

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Don Phillipson
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: lie Reply with quote

"curious J" <email@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2t13j2F1ori0cU1@uni-berlin.de...

Quote:
I'm confused about the word, lie.
There's several words like lay, lain, laying, and lied.
Though I've looked up in the dictionary, I don't clearly get the
difference
between these words and often get confused.

This is where parsing helps, specifically distinguishing
transitive from transitive usages. They function in
practice as if two different verbs, e.g.
I lie down to sleep
I laid down to sleep
I lay down my arms (meaning I surrender my sword)
I laid down my arms
and so on.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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meirman
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: lie Reply with quote

+In alt.english.usage on Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:00:12 -0400 "Don
Phillipson" <d.phillipson@ttrryytteell.com> posted:

Quote:
"curious J" <email@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2t13j2F1ori0cU1@uni-berlin.de...

I'm confused about the word, lie.
There's several words like lay, lain, laying, and lied.
Though I've looked up in the dictionary, I don't clearly get the
difference
between these words and often get confused.

Lie (meaning to position oneself horizontally, for example on a bed)
has the 3 principal parts, lie, lay, lain, plus lying
Lay (meaning to place something on top of something else) has the 3
principle parts, lay, laid, laid, plus laying
Lie (meaning to intentionally tell a falsehood) has the 3 principle
parts, lie, lied, lied, plus lying.

You have to memorize the principal parts of the many irregular verbs.
Nothing else will do. Get a list and memorize them.

Quote:
This is where parsing helps, specifically distinguishing
transitive from transitive usages. They function in
practice as if two different verbs, e.g.
I lie down to sleep
I laid down to sleep

Hmmm. I lay down to sleep. I have lain down. :)

Quote:
I lay down my arms (meaning I surrender my sword)
I laid down my arms
and so on.


s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.

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Indianapolis, 7 years
Chicago, 6 years
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