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Bob G
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:09 am
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On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any connection
with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of a manufacturing
process?
Bob G |
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Murray Arnow
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:09 am
Post subject: Re: Brand new colors |
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bobjames27@aol.com (Bob G) wrote:
| Quote: | On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any connection
with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of a manufacturing
process?
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Go to the dictionary, thou sluggard. |
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don groves
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:09 am
Post subject: Re: Brand new colors |
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In article <20041124141754.06555.00000677@mb-m24.aol.com>, Bob G
at bobjames27@aol.com exposited:
| Quote: | On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any connection
with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of a manufacturing
process?
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"Brand new" has never been associated with a brand in my
experience. It's idiomatic for something just on the market. Also
"brand spanking new", which I guess refers to a new baby.
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dg (domain=ccwebster) |
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Spehro Pefhany
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:09 am
Post subject: Re: Brand new colors |
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On 24 Nov 2004 19:17:54 GMT, the renowned bobjames27@aol.com (Bob G)
wrote:
| Quote: | On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any connection
with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of a manufacturing
process?
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Yes, "brand" just acts as an intensifier. Similarly, there need be no
actual spanking involved in a "brand spanking new" product.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
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twiggy
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:10 am
Post subject: Re: Brand new colors |
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bobjames27@aol.com (Bob G) wrote in
news:20041124141754.06555.00000677@mb-m24.aol.com:
| Quote: | On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will
soon be available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors
have no brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any
connection with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of
a manufacturing process?
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The 'brand' in 'brand-new' comes from 16th century 'brand'; ie it's like
bright new metal just taken out of the fire.
(Roughly what my Chambers says) |
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Bill Bonde ( ``And the La
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
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On 24 Nov 2004 19:17:54 GMT, the renowned bobjames27@aol.com (Bob G)
wrote:
On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any connection
with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of a manufacturing
process?
Yes, "brand" just acts as an intensifier. Similarly, there need be no
actual spanking involved in a "brand spanking new" product.
Let's not forget people who call anything, even things they picked up at |
the county dump, "Like brand new". |
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Adrian Bailey
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:04 am
Post subject: Re: Brand new colors |
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"Bill Bonde ( ``And the Lamb lies down on Broadway'' )"
<stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On 24 Nov 2004 19:17:54 GMT, the renowned bobjames27@aol.com (Bob G)
wrote:
On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will
soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors
have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any
connection
with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of a
manufacturing
process?
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It never had any such connection, except in your mind.
| Quote: | Yes, "brand" just acts as an intensifier. Similarly, there need be no
actual spanking involved in a "brand spanking new" product.
Let's not forget people who call anything, even things they picked up at
the county dump, "Like brand new".
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Twice now I've given negative feedback on ebay to people who've advertised
items as "in mint condition" when they were not. One lady thought she was
justified in using the epithet because she had washed the item before
sending it to me.
Adrian |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:03 pm
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Adrian Bailey filted:
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Twice now I've given negative feedback on ebay to people who've advertised
items as "in mint condition" when they were not. One lady thought she was
justified in using the epithet because she had washed the item before
sending it to me.
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Maybe she'd washed it in Dr Bronner's 18-in-one Pure Castile Liquid Soap
(peppermint variety)....r |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Brand new colors |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:52:18 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
| Quote: | On 24 Nov 2004 19:17:54 GMT, the renowned bobjames27@aol.com (Bob G)
wrote:
On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any connection
with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of a manufacturing
process?
Yes, "brand" just acts as an intensifier. Similarly, there need be no
actual spanking involved in a "brand spanking new" product.
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What if the product is a paddle?
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Bill Bonde ( ``And the La
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:10 am
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Charles Riggs wrote:
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:52:18 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On 24 Nov 2004 19:17:54 GMT, the renowned bobjames27@aol.com (Bob G)
wrote:
On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
Or is the meaning of "brand new" now completely divorced from any connection
with a particular brand, as such, or even from the idea of a manufacturing
process?
Yes, "brand" just acts as an intensifier. Similarly, there need be no
actual spanking involved in a "brand spanking new" product.
What if the product is a paddle?
Then you are up a creek. |
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Wood Avens
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:13 am
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Each time I see the title of this thread I find myself wondering what
a genuinely, truly new color could possibly look like.
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Katy Jennison
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:13 am
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Wood Avens typed thus:
| Quote: | Each time I see the title of this thread I find myself wondering what
a genuinely, truly new color could possibly look like.
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There is an SF story in which people are being transported to an
alternative universe, one of the characteristics of which is that
there is a new colour called (IIRC) "varm". However, I can't
remember its name or author, so that's not much help, really.
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David
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replace the first component of address
with the definite article. |
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Stan Brown
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:13 am
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"Bob G" wrote in alt.usage.english:
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On a TV commercial someone announces the sweaters being peddled will soon be
available in brand new colors.
Anyone object to the word "brand" in that sentence? Obviously colors have no
brand, being naturally occurring phenomena.
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"Brand new" means completely new -- when used as an adverb on the
adjective "new", "brand" is a simple intensifier.
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Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? |
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Peter Moylan
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Dylan Nicholson infrared:
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"Robin Bignall" <docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:03:47 -0000, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com
wrote:
Wood Avens typed thus:
Each time I see the title of this thread I find myself wondering what
a genuinely, truly new color could possibly look like.
There is an SF story in which people are being transported to an
alternative universe, one of the characteristics of which is that
there is a new colour called (IIRC) "varm". However, I can't
remember its name or author, so that's not much help, really.
Never mind. Can you remember what colour varm was?
I'm thinking a sort of smoky, iridescent but palish olive colour, maybe.
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Definitely a warm colour, almost but not quite completely unlike octiron.
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Peter Moylan peter at ee dot newcastle dot edu dot au
http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au (OS/2 and eCS information and software) |
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Dylan Nicholson
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:04 am
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"Robin Bignall" <docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:03:47 -0000, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com
wrote:
Wood Avens typed thus:
Each time I see the title of this thread I find myself wondering what
a genuinely, truly new color could possibly look like.
There is an SF story in which people are being transported to an
alternative universe, one of the characteristics of which is that
there is a new colour called (IIRC) "varm". However, I can't
remember its name or author, so that's not much help, really.
Never mind. Can you remember what colour varm was?
I'm thinking a sort of smoky, iridescent but palish olive colour, maybe. |
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