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halcombe
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:08 am    Post subject: 'Agate' as journalism jargon Reply with quote

I read

http://observer.com/pages/offtherec.asp

'On an ordinary weekday, Mr. Carter estimated, hockey would occupy
about two pages of 18 in his section, including the agate.'

Now 'agate', according to Webster

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=AGATE&x=&y=

is 'a size of type approximately 5 1/2 point'.

But, in context, it means, I surmise, the part of the sports section
of a newspaper in which the results of minor sports - or the minor
leagues of major sports - are recorded in the briefest form possible,
typically in a font size requiring the use of a magnifying-glass by
non-carrotoholics.

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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: 'Agate' as journalism jargon Reply with quote

halcombe wrote:
Quote:
I read

http://observer.com/pages/offtherec.asp

'On an ordinary weekday, Mr. Carter estimated, hockey would occupy
about two pages of 18 in his section, including the agate.'

Now 'agate', according to Webster

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=AGATE&x=&y=

is 'a size of type approximately 5 1/2 point'.

But, in context, it means, I surmise, the part of the sports
section
of a newspaper in which the results of minor sports - or the minor
leagues of major sports - are recorded in the briefest form
possible,
typically in a font size requiring the use of a magnifying-glass by
non-carrotoholics.

That's right. There are other nice names for type sizes, too; but
it's died out now, and even in newspapers it was just a habit of
speech left over from the old days. They included Pearl (tiny),
Nonpareil, Pica, and Minion; US "Agate" was "Ruby" in the Empire.

Mike.
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Christopher Green
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: 'Agate' as journalism jargon Reply with quote

halcombe@subdimension.com (halcombe) wrote in message news:<d7fa3848.0411241048.5b080caf@posting.google.com>...
Quote:
I read

http://observer.com/pages/offtherec.asp

'On an ordinary weekday, Mr. Carter estimated, hockey would occupy
about two pages of 18 in his section, including the agate.'

Now 'agate', according to Webster

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=AGATE&x=&y=

is 'a size of type approximately 5 1/2 point'.

But, in context, it means, I surmise, the part of the sports section
of a newspaper in which the results of minor sports - or the minor
leagues of major sports - are recorded in the briefest form possible,
typically in a font size requiring the use of a magnifying-glass by
non-carrotoholics.

Agate type is indeed 5-1/2 point, the smallest size in general use.
The agate is any part of the newspaper that is to be printed but does
not warrant larger type. Sports statistics are an example of news
suitable for relegating to the agate.

An agate line is also a unit of area equal to 1/14 inch by 1 column.
Advertising is often priced in agate lines.

--
Chris Green

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Christopher Green
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: 'Agate' as journalism jargon Reply with quote

halcombe@subdimension.com (halcombe) wrote in message news:<d7fa3848.0411241048.5b080caf@posting.google.com>...
Quote:
I read

http://observer.com/pages/offtherec.asp

'On an ordinary weekday, Mr. Carter estimated, hockey would occupy
about two pages of 18 in his section, including the agate.'

Now 'agate', according to Webster

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=AGATE&x=&y=

is 'a size of type approximately 5 1/2 point'.

But, in context, it means, I surmise, the part of the sports section
of a newspaper in which the results of minor sports - or the minor
leagues of major sports - are recorded in the briefest form possible,
typically in a font size requiring the use of a magnifying-glass by
non-carrotoholics.

Excelsior, Brilliant, Diamond, and Pearl (3, 3-1/2, 4-1/2, and 5
points, respectively) are smaller but somewhat unusable for anything
that is really meant to be read.

--
Chris Green
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don groves
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: 'Agate' as journalism jargon Reply with quote

In article <c31fa7b1.0411241657.270eff2b@posting.google.com>,
Christopher Green at cj.green@worldnet.att.net exposited:
Quote:
halcombe@subdimension.com (halcombe) wrote in message news:<d7fa3848.0411241048.5b080caf@posting.google.com>...
I read

http://observer.com/pages/offtherec.asp

'On an ordinary weekday, Mr. Carter estimated, hockey would occupy
about two pages of 18 in his section, including the agate.'

Now 'agate', according to Webster

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=AGATE&x=&y=

is 'a size of type approximately 5 1/2 point'.

But, in context, it means, I surmise, the part of the sports section
of a newspaper in which the results of minor sports - or the minor
leagues of major sports - are recorded in the briefest form possible,
typically in a font size requiring the use of a magnifying-glass by
non-carrotoholics.

Excelsior, Brilliant, Diamond, and Pearl (3, 3-1/2, 4-1/2, and 5
points, respectively) are smaller but somewhat unusable for anything
that is really meant to be read.

Those parts of contracts someone hopes you will overlook?
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dg (domain=ccwebster)
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