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Krejzz
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

hello, first time here :)

"Fancy abusing is not a crime" - is this sentence correct?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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ohlo@op_DEELATE_.pl

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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

Krejzz wrote:
Quote:
hello, first time here :)

"Fancy abusing is not a crime" - is this sentence correct?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Can you give us some context, please? It's not clear to me on its
own.

Mike.
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Charles Riggs
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:59:51 +0100, Krejzz <ohlo@_WYTNIJ_op.pl> wrote:

Quote:
hello, first time here :)

"Fancy abusing is not a crime" - is this sentence correct?

Yes, although devious minds will find it ambiguous.

Quote:
Thanks for any suggestions.

I found it stimulating when considering what fancy abuse might entail,
so thank you.
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Charles Riggs

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Ross Howard
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:55:53 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrought:

Quote:
Krejzz wrote:
hello, first time here :)

"Fancy abusing is not a crime" - is this sentence correct?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Can you give us some context, please? It's not clear to me on its
own.

Fancy abusing some drugs round my gaff, darlin'?

Fancy, abusing his police privilege to the full, casually slipped the
Z-car's gear lever into interplanetary hyperwarp drive. "Aw, shet,"
his crusty Caledonian partner Jock Weir said laconically. "Ut's
hwait-knockle tame, lads."

Fancy! Abusing is not a crime? Whoever would have thought....

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Ross Howard
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Krejzz
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

context:

http://taxo.pl/~pawel/art_okladka_2.jpg


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Krejzz
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CyberCypher
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

Ross Howard wrote on 23 Nov 2004:

Quote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:55:53 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrought:

Krejzz wrote:
hello, first time here :)

"Fancy abusing is not a crime" - is this sentence correct?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Can you give us some context, please? It's not clear to me on its
own.

Fancy abusing some drugs round my gaff, darlin'?

Fancy, abusing his police privilege to the full, casually slipped the
Z-car's gear lever into interplanetary hyperwarp drive. "Aw, shet,"
his crusty Caledonian partner Jock Weir said laconically. "Ut's
hwait-knockle tame, lads."

Fancy! Abusing is not a crime? Whoever would have thought....

Fancy-abusing is only an insult.



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Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
For email, replace numbers with English alphabet.
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CyberCypher
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

Krejzz wrote on 23 Nov 2004:

Quote:
context:

http://taxo.pl/~pawel/art_okladka_2.jpg

It means that the person who wrote the advert it appears in thought the
words were cute. I think that "fancy" should be "fantasy" and abusing"
should be "abuse". What can one expect from an advertiser?

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Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
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Tony Cooper
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:59:51 +0100, Krejzz <ohlo@_WYTNIJ_op.pl> wrote:

Quote:
hello, first time here :)

"Fancy abusing is not a crime" - is this sentence correct?

Thanks for any suggestions.

It could be if you made it "Fancy-abusing" to indicate that what is
being abused is your fancy. Your "fancy" is something that you admire
or like. If you take a fancy to a girl, you like her.

If someone else speaks disparagingly of that girl, he would be abusing
your fancy or fancy-abusing. That's not a polite thing to do, but
it's not a crime.

The context of where your sentence was found may cast a new meaning on
it, but without context this is all that comes to mind.
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Krejzz
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

Dnia Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:26:34 GMT, Tony Cooper napisał(a):

Quote:
The context of where your sentence was found may cast a new meaning on
it, but without context this is all that comes to mind.

OK. So, I do a graphic design for a hair fashion net and use sentence from
another person who is not sure about it. I want to tell that overdosing a
fantasy (imagination) is nothing wrong, is not a crime - we should do
atypical, crazy things ...in life (with your hair too :)

Got it?

K.
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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

Krejzz wrote:
Quote:
Dnia Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:26:34 GMT, Tony Cooper napisał(a):

The context of where your sentence was found may cast a new
meaning
on it, but without context this is all that comes to mind.

OK. So, I do a graphic design for a hair fashion net and use
sentence
from another person who is not sure about it. I want to tell that
overdosing a fantasy (imagination) is nothing wrong, is not a
crime -
we should do atypical, crazy things ...in life (with your hair too
Smile


You're saying "Overdosing on fantasy is no crime", but it doesn't
ring for me. How about: "Fantasy isn't a crime"? (It can lead to
crimes, though: I'm unhappy about the philosophy here.)

"Push your fantasy to the limit" perhaps? "Ride your imagination to
the edge"; "Commit a crime against hair!"

You'll need some editing, by the way; and your client probably needs
a sedative.

Mike.
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Adrian Bailey
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

"Krejzz" <ohlo@_WYTNIJ_op.pl> wrote in message
news:1qetqec38umof.1efjzbj2antjo.dlg@40tude.net...
Quote:
hello, first time here :)

"Fancy abusing is not a crime" - is this sentence correct?

No, but in this context it hardly matters.

Adrian
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Don Phillipson
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

Re "fancy abusing is not a crime"

"Krejzz" <ohlo@_WYTNIJ_op.pl> wrote in message
news:8edt9k15ujmh$.pwrwmt44qfmu.dlg@40tude.net...
Quote:
Dnia Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:26:34 GMT, Tony Cooper napisał(a):

The context of where your sentence was found may cast a new meaning on
it, but without context this is all that comes to mind.

OK. So, I do a graphic design for a hair fashion net and use sentence from
another person who is not sure about it. I want to tell that overdosing a
fantasy (imagination) is nothing wrong, is not a crime - we should do
atypical, crazy things ...in life (with your hair too Smile

To sum up:
1. Advertising slogans often break the rules
of language (e.g. Winston tastes good, like
a cigarette should.)
2. The main value of an advertisement is its
power to influence sales. We are told
http://taxo.pl/~pawel/art_okladka_2.jpg is a
"graphic design for a hair fashion net" so
we can estimate for ourselves its power to
influence sales.
3. But the correctness of its fragments of
language remain hors de concours.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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Tony Cooper
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:19:26 +0100, Krejzz <ohlo@_WYTNIJ_op.pl> wrote:

Quote:
Dnia Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:26:34 GMT, Tony Cooper napisał(a):

The context of where your sentence was found may cast a new meaning on
it, but without context this is all that comes to mind.

OK. So, I do a graphic design for a hair fashion net and use sentence from
another person who is not sure about it. I want to tell that overdosing a
fantasy (imagination) is nothing wrong, is not a crime - we should do
atypical, crazy things ...in life (with your hair too :)

Got it?

Personally, after seeing the ad, I would write: Indulging in fantasy

is not a crime. Or: Indulging in your fantasy is not a crime.

That is, if you want to stay close to the original and use "crime'.

Your subject line asks if the sentence is correct. Advertising copy
does not require complete sentences or even correct sentences.
Advertising copy is intended to capture the eye and the imagination.

For example: "We do fantasy" in as a copy headline of an ad for a
hairdresser is absolutely appropriate. I don't know if you'll catch
the idiomatic usage, but I'd use "Uptight Ain't Right" in an ad
headline, but not anywhere else.
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Krejzz
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

Quote:
Your subject line asks if the sentence is correct. Advertising copy
does not require complete sentences or even correct sentences.
Advertising copy is intended to capture the eye and the imagination.

Sure. So, can I use "Fan* abusing is not a crime" in ad?

*cy or *tasy - which is better?


Thanks for help. From time to time I do copywriting in polish but I realise
that I'm not competent person to do it in english (and have no time to
check this out somwhere else than usenet :)

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Krejzz
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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: is this sentence correct? Reply with quote

Krejzz wrote:
Quote:
Your subject line asks if the sentence is correct. Advertising
copy
does not require complete sentences or even correct sentences.
Advertising copy is intended to capture the eye and the
imagination.

Sure. So, can I use "Fan* abusing is not a crime" in ad?

*cy or *tasy - which is better?


Thanks for help. From time to time I do copywriting in polish but I
realise that I'm not competent person to do it in english (and have
no time to check this out somwhere else than usenet Smile

YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T PURSUE THIS. (Sorry to shout, but it's very
important.) Understand that in English-speaking countries the word
"abuse" is often heavily biased towards those forms of abuse which
actually _are_ crimes, particularly including sexual or violent abuse
of women or children; and that "fantasy" is often taken to refer to
sexual fantasies.

My first impression when I read your original post was, in fact, that
you seemed to be saying "fantasising about abusing somebody isn't a
crime, even if it's a crime to actually _do_ it". I guessed that you
probably didn't mean that, but I needed to be sure.

It's essential that your text should be written by a competent native
speaker of the language, or you may give a false impression, or even
unintentionally break some laws.

Mike.
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