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cyberdude
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: A few questions Reply with quote

Hi

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What are the differences between

a.) I got up early this morning.

and

b.) I got up earlier this morning.
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What are the differences between

a.) make them quiet

and

b.) make them be quiet
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How to describe "having low self-esteem" with an adjective word?
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How to describe "feeling helpless and discouraged with a difficult
situation" with an adjective word?
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Thank you in advance.


David

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Lee Hon Chor
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

Matthew Huntbach (mmh@dcs.qmul.ac.uk) wrote:
: On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, cyberdude wrote:

: > How to describe "having low self-esteem" with an adjective word?

: Perhaps you could say what you mean by this. In my experience, the
: problem of "having low self-esteem" seems to be wildly over-applied
: these days. I quite often see it give as a diagnosis e.g. for badly behaved
: kids, in cases where it seems to me the problem is a too high self-esteem.

This is cyberdude writing from another account because I can't
find my post from news groups accessed through Google.com.

I meant that by "one often feels he is inferior to or less
able than others even though that may not be true".

David
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Donna Richoux
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

Lee Hon Chor <hclee@axp15.phy.cuhk.edu.hk> wrote:

Quote:
Matthew Huntbach (mmh@dcs.qmul.ac.uk) wrote:
: On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, cyberdude wrote:

: > How to describe "having low self-esteem" with an adjective word?

: Perhaps you could say what you mean by this. In my experience, the
: problem of "having low self-esteem" seems to be wildly over-applied
: these days. I quite often see it give as a diagnosis e.g. for badly behaved
: kids, in cases where it seems to me the problem is a too high self-esteem.

This is cyberdude writing from another account because I can't
find my post from news groups accessed through Google.com.

I meant that by "one often feels he is inferior to or less
able than others even though that may not be true".

I don't understand why people keep asking us for a single word for
complicated things. Anyway --

Is humble.

Is self-effacing. [to make (oneself) modestly or shyly inconspicuous]

Feels + adjective:
inferior
second-rate
unworthy

--
Best -- Donna Richoux

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Matthew Huntbach
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, cyberdude wrote:

Quote:
How to describe "having low self-esteem" with an adjective word?

Perhaps you could say what you mean by this. In my experience, the
problem of "having low self-esteem" seems to be wildly over-applied
these days. I quite often see it give as a diagnosis e.g. for badly behaved
kids, in cases where it seems to me the problem is a too high self-esteem.

Matthew Huntbach
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John O'Flaherty
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

cyberdude wrote:

Quote:
What are the differences between
a.) I got up early this morning.
and
b.) I got up earlier this morning.

The first is absolute, the second comparative.

Quote:
What are the differences between
a.) make them quiet
and
b.) make them be quiet

If 'them' refers to children or other people, the first is a little
unnatural and threatening. If your boss said either one about the cars
you were designing, the meaning would be about the same.

Quote:
How to describe "having low self-esteem" with an adjective word?

Self-contempt, self-loathing, self-hatred, but those are all stronger
than 'having low self-esteem'. I don't know a single word that matches
it exactly.

Quote:
How to describe "feeling helpless and discouraged with a difficult
situation" with an adjective word?

Dismayed.

--
john
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Robert Lieblich
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

Donna Richoux wrote:

[ ... ]

Quote:
I don't understand why people keep asking us for a single word for
complicated things. Anyway --

Plainly, Donna, what we need is a single word for asking for a
single word for complicated things. "Overreaching," maybe?

--
Bob Lieblich
Hey, we could put it in the FAQ
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Steve MacGregor
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

"cyberdude" <honchorlee@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3cf6ab8e.0411180310.290a7d42@posting.google.com...

Quote:
What are the differences between

a.) I got up early this morning.
and
b.) I got up earlier this morning.

a) I may get up early every morning, and today was no exception.
b) I get up early most mornings, but I got up earlier than usual today.

Quote:
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What are the differences between
a.) make them quiet
and
b.) make them be quiet

a) Your job is to make them by assembling them from their component
parts. Do so in such a way that after assembly, they are quiet.
b) They are capable on their own of deciding whether they will be quiet
or noisy. Convince them that it is to their best interest to be quiet.

Quote:
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How to describe "having low self-esteem" with an adjective word?

I dunno about this one.

Quote:
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How to describe "feeling helpless and discouraged with a difficult
situation" with an adjective word?

"Depressed."

Quote:
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--
Steve
http://www.steve-and-pattie.com/esperantujo
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

Matthew Huntbach wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, cyberdude wrote:

How to describe "having low self-esteem" with an adjective word?

Perhaps you could say what you mean by this. In my experience, the
problem of "having low self-esteem" seems to be wildly over-applied
these days. I quite often see it give as a diagnosis e.g. for badly
behaved
kids, in cases where it seems to me the problem is a too high
self-esteem.


The theory is that people with low self-esteem deal with it by behaving
as if they had overly high self-esteem. Of course, if you've observed
these kids closely and they've confided in you, you might know better.
--
Jerry Friedman
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Hagrinas Mivali
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

Steve MacGregor wrote:
Quote:
"cyberdude" <honchorlee@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3cf6ab8e.0411180310.290a7d42@posting.google.com...

What are the differences between

a.) I got up early this morning.
and
b.) I got up earlier this morning.

a) I may get up early every morning, and today was no exception.
b) I get up early most mornings, but I got up earlier than usual
today.

If you get up late most mornings, you can still get up earlier than usual.

Quote:

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What are the differences between
a.) make them quiet
and
b.) make them be quiet

a) Your job is to make them by assembling them from their component
parts. Do so in such a way that after assembly, they are quiet.
b) They are capable on their own of deciding whether they will be
quiet or noisy. Convince them that it is to their best interest to
be quiet.

If you did not do "a" properly, you may have to do "b." The latter implies
that they started off noisy. The former does not.
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Hagrinas Mivali
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

John O'Flaherty wrote:
Quote:
cyberdude wrote:

What are the differences between
a.) I got up early this morning.
and
b.) I got up earlier this morning.

The first is absolute, the second comparative.


The second is comparative, and is relative to a customary time. The first
can be absolute (but still relative to morning) or can be comparative
depending on how it is stressed. If I tell you that you are here early this
morning, I most likely mean that you arrived earlier than usual or earlier
than was anticipated. Alternatively, but not very likely, I may be assuming
that you are unaware of the time, even though it is the anticipated time, or
are unaware that it's considered early.
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Jordan Abel
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:02 am    Post subject: Re: A few questions Reply with quote

Steve MacGregor wrote:
Quote:
"cyberdude" <honchorlee@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3cf6ab8e.0411180310.290a7d42@posting.google.com...

What are the differences between

a.) I got up early this morning.
and
b.) I got up earlier this morning.


a) I may get up early every morning, and today was no exception.
b) I get up early most mornings, but I got up earlier than usual today.

or b) can mean "I get up late most mornings, and late today, but not
quite so late"
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