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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:34 am
Post subject: Re: adverb or adjective? |
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Bill Bonde ( ``And the Lamb lies down on Broadway'' ) wrote:
| Quote: | Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
On 16 Nov 2004 11:40:10 -0800, M. Ranjit Mathews wrote:
Are spicy and the first hot in "hot hot" used as adverbs since
they
imply "spicily hot" and "hotly hot" or are "spicy hot" and "hot
hot"
compound adjectives that specialize hot into a spicy kind of hot
and a hot kind of hot?
I'd spell them with hyphens and call them compounds.
If English were a language where adjectives took changeable endings
while compound nouns didn't, we could easily tell what was going
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A lot more fun this way, though. Inflexions can be bastards for a
poet.
My two penn'orth or tuppenceworth: in the example cited below, it's a
kind of quoted and virtual oratio-recta expositional apposition, to
be punctuated as follows.
"Do you mean 'spicy' 'hot', or 'hot' 'hot'?"
Believe me, it's the only one that works.
Mike.
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M. Ranjit Mathews
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:00 pm
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"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<301vmeF2r6jv3U1@uni-berlin.de>...
| Quote: | Bill Bonde ( ``And the Lamb lies down on Broadway'' ) wrote:
Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
On 16 Nov 2004 11:40:10 -0800, M. Ranjit Mathews wrote:
Are spicy and the first hot in "hot hot" used as adverbs since they
imply "spicily hot" and "hotly hot" or are "spicy hot" and "hot hot"
compound adjectives that specialize hot into a spicy kind of hot
and a hot kind of hot?
I'd spell them with hyphens and call them compounds.
If English were a language where adjectives took changeable endings
while compound nouns didn't, we could easily tell what was going
on.
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Can you tell what is going on from the way this adjective is
constructed in Tamil?
<vekkkam>=shame(n),<kEDu>=badness(n)
<vekkamAna>=shameful(adj),<kEDAna>=bad(adj)
<vekkamAna>+<kEDAna>=<vekkakEDAna>=disgraceful(adj)
<adu vekkakEDAna viSayam>=That is/was a disgraceful matter.
Since this construction of "disgraceful" is more literally described
as "shameful-bad" than "shamefully bad", one may say that
"disgraceful" is constructed by specializing "bad" into a shameful
kind of bad.
"spicy hot" and "hot hot" look like similar constructions with one
adjective specializing the next.
| Quote: | A lot more fun this way, though. Inflexions can be bastards for a
poet.
My two penn'orth or tuppenceworth: in the example cited below, it's a
kind of quoted and virtual oratio-recta expositional apposition, to
be punctuated as follows.
"Do you mean 'spicy' 'hot', or 'hot' 'hot'?"
Believe me, it's the only one that works.
Mike. |
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Douglas G. Kilday
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:51 pm
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"Ron Hardin" <rhhardin@mindspring.com> wrote ...
| Quote: | Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Do you fail to notice that "hot" is the base and "hotness" a (fairly
rare) derivative of it? (The usual nominalization of "hot" is "heat.")
So spices produce heat? I hadn't heard that usage. I've heard plenty
about
spices producing hotness.
Moreover that's technically correct. Hotness is the ratio of the increase
in heat
to the increase in entropy.
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That's technically incorrect. Temperature is the ratio of increase in heat
to increase in entropy, i.e. T = dQ/dS. Temperature constitutes a
continuum, since it has order and a metric. Hotness on the other hand
constitutes only a manifold, since it has order but no metric. For details
see C. Truesdell, _Rational Thermodynamics_.
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