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Dylan Nicholson
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:34 am
Post subject: Re: Tie me kangaroo up, sport? |
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"Mark Barratt" <mark.barratt@enternet.hu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Mark Brader wrote:
When a phrase consisting of a verb and an
adverb, preposition, particle, or the like is converted to a
noun, the words are always run together, or at least
hyphenated. Layoff, turnoff, runoff, shutoff; layout, turnout,
runout, shutout; layup, turnup, runup... and why no "shutup"?
Did you see that? He wrote 'always'! This is the
find-the-exception game that first hooked me on aue, years ago.
Now, let's see...
"The run around" gets more google hits than "The runaround", |
but I can't find any dictionary backup...so far.
It might be fair to see that almost all verb-adverb/prep/particple
combinations in common use *can* be either hyphenated or
conjoined.
But dictionaries seem to almost invariably prefer using a hyphen,
where often common usage (at least on the web) would suggest
otherwise.
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Dylan Nicholson
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:34 am
Post subject: Re: Tie me kangaroo up, sport? |
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"Dylan Nicholson" <wizofaus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:301vjoF29u2e1U1@uni-berlin.de...
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"Mark Barratt" <mark.barratt@enternet.hu> wrote in message
news:xn0dpvtefbjaz8003@news.individual.net...
Mark Brader wrote:
When a phrase consisting of a verb and an
adverb, preposition, particle, or the like is converted to a
noun, the words are always run together, or at least
hyphenated. Layoff, turnoff, runoff, shutoff; layout, turnout,
runout, shutout; layup, turnup, runup... and why no "shutup"?
Did you see that? He wrote 'always'! This is the
find-the-exception game that first hooked me on aue, years ago.
Now, let's see...
"The run around" gets more google hits than "The runaround",
but I can't find any dictionary backup...so far.
It might be fair to see that almost all verb-adverb/prep/particple
combinations in common use *can* be either hyphenated or
conjoined.
But dictionaries seem to almost invariably prefer using a hyphen,
where often common usage (at least on the web) would suggest
otherwise.
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Would you allow "bugger all"? |
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Mark Brader
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:34 am
Post subject: Re: Tie me kangaroo up, sport? |
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Mark Barratt:
| Quote: | Did you see that? He wrote 'always'!
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(big grin)
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Mark Brader, Toronto | "Mark is probably right about something,
msb@vex.net | but I forget what" -- Rayan Zachariassen
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Mark Barratt
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Tie me kangaroo up, sport? |
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Dylan Nicholson wrote:
[In search of a unhyphenated and unconjoined compound noun
comprising a verb and a particle/preposition/adverb]
| Quote: | Would you allow "bugger all"?
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Nice try, but I think it could be claimed that 'all' is a noun
here, as in "all is lost".
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Mark Barratt
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