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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: Helpful hints Reply with quote

Donna Richoux wrote:
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My impression is that editorial control of distinct imprints within
a
publishing conglomerate tend to stay distinct, however. Anyone been
inside the industry for the last ten years or so?

I'm more a journo than a booko*, but it varies. The weakness from a
cultural standpoint is the unwillingness of conglomerate publishers
and their imitators to use a share of the profits from big sellers to
support "worthy" weak sellers. The old, more "personal" houses
regularly did that. When did you last see a new book of present-day
poetry from OUP, for example? Less shockingly, though I haven't
checked, I doubt if there's a Collins dictionary of Coptic or
Chinyanga.

*Yes, I have just made that word up.

Mike.

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Jess Askin
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: Helpful hints Reply with quote

"Donna Richoux" <trio@euronet.nl> wrote in message
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Jess Askin <nospam@dontbother.net> wrote:

"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip discussion of HarperCollins]

What disgusts me about it is that they're publishers. Some dumb-arse
advertising agency or airline might escape the worst of my rage; but
these people have the effrontery to make _dictionaries_. What's even
less digestible is that the dictionaries are often good ones.

But does Harper's deserve any credit for that? My French-English
dictionary
(printed in England but sold in the US) says HarperCollins Robert on the
dustjacket but just Collins Robert on the spine of the book itself.

Well, do you suppose the profits from dictionaries finance mass-market
paperbacks, or vice-versa?

Hearts run wild in Bitter Creek, Texas ... a hotbed
of secrets, passions, feuds, and romantic
redemption, where rugged, stubborn heroes meet their
matches in headstrong, extraordinary women.
(Avon Books, division of HarperCollins)

The Collins Pocket Dictionary & Thesaurus has been a
best-seller since its publication in 1993. This
major new edition has a fresh, updated text as well
as many new and helpful features.
(Collins, division of HarperCollins)

My impression is that editorial control of distinct imprints within a
publishing conglomerate tend to stay distinct, however. Anyone been
inside the industry for the last ten years or so?

I have the second edition of the dictionary, which was published in 1987 as
a joint venture of Collins in England and Robert in France. In 1990, when
Harper took over Collins, the dictionary was reprinted, and HarperCollins
added to the (English) title page, the copyright page, and the dust jacket.
I don't know why they didn't change the spine; perhaps they had a bunch of
the old ones lying around.
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Bill Bonde ( ``And the La
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: What is Skitt's law Reply with quote

Qp10qp wrote:
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Subject: What is Skitt's law
From: vivkhemka@gmail.com (Vivek)

Thats the second occassion I've seen "Skitt's Law" on this board in
the last week. What IS Skitt's Law ?

Skitt's first law targets sloppy coves like me who dash posts off hurriedly on
aol (no preview facility)

Can you explain why users of AOL don't just use a free normal usenet

provider for their usenet services? I think it is because most AOL users
are idiots. Do tell.



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I heard Clinton buried a time capsule at his new presidential library
sized like an overseas shipping container filled with stuff he didn't
want anyone to find till long after his death, the real deed to
Whitewater, the envelope for the Tyson Foods chicken payoffs, the real
gun he used to whack Foster, the keys to the Exocet missile he took Ron
Brown out with, copies of another few thousand illegally acquired FBI
files on his enemies, tickets to Tahiti from the White House Travel
Office, a few more soiled dresses, a couple of cases of well chewed
Cuban cigars, and the unabridged version of his autobiography. That last
one was touch and go just getting the bugger in.

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Athel Cornish-Bowden
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: What is Skitt's law Reply with quote

R H Draney <dadoctah@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<cnfrdh0k9q@drn.newsguy.com>...

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Is there a corollary to something I've often noted, namely that a post with a
misspelled word in the subject line will always engender a longer thread (thus
spreading the typo over many weeks of message-summary pages) than one with
everything spelled correctly?...r

Misspelling a word in the subject line has at least one advantage,
that if the subject line is something like "Spelling question" then
calling it "Speling queston" will at least ensure that its thread
doesn't get entangled with all the other threads with the same subject
line. Not of course that I'm suggesting that misspelled subject lines
are good in themselves, but the over-used ones tend to come from
once-in-a-lifetime visitors rather than regulars. On HTML news groups
there are endless threads with subject lines like "HELP PLEASE!!!"
where only the spelling errors and the numbers of exclamation marks
distinguish one from another.

athel

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