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Maria Conlon
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| Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:01 pm
Post subject: Re: German server down? |
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John Seeliger wrote:
| Quote: | Maria Conlon wrote:
[1] With SBC-Yahoo, there is no good way to access Usenet. Yahoo has
a few groups, but they really just encourage lists and message
boards of some kind. Phooey. If there's some secret to getting aue
through SBC-Yahoo, I'd sure like to know what it is. It would be
nice to have a back-up for times like these.
Generally the secret is just asking your ISP.
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I have asked my ISP (which is SBC-Yahoo). Their support people don't
even know what I'm talking about. ("Newsgroup? You mean a list?") Why
SBC hooked up with Yahoo for this venture is a mystery to me.
| Quote: | ......At least when a new
group comes on the scene, it often doesn't get picked up and people
will have to ask their ISPs to add the group.
[...] |
I do plan to lobby for actual newsgroups on Yahoo. Wish me luck.
Maria Conlon
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John Seeliger
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:00 am
Post subject: Re: German server down? |
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"Maria Conlon" <mariaconlon001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2vn0ceF2n5ic5U1@uni-berlin.de...
| Quote: | John Seeliger wrote:
Maria Conlon wrote:
[1] With SBC-Yahoo, there is no good way to access Usenet. Yahoo has
a few groups, but they really just encourage lists and message
boards of some kind. Phooey. If there's some secret to getting aue
through SBC-Yahoo, I'd sure like to know what it is. It would be
nice to have a back-up for times like these.
Generally the secret is just asking your ISP.
I have asked my ISP (which is SBC-Yahoo). Their support people don't even
know what I'm talking about. ("Newsgroup? You mean a list?") Why SBC
hooked up with Yahoo for this venture is a mystery to me.
......At least when a new
group comes on the scene, it often doesn't get picked up and people
will have to ask their ISPs to add the group.
[...]
I do plan to lobby for actual newsgroups on Yahoo. Wish me luck.
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I do wish you luck. One of these days, I will probably get DSL and hope
they'll have good newsgroup service by then. |
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Bill Bonde ( ``And the La
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:01 pm
Post subject: Re: German server down? |
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Mike Lyle wrote:
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CyberCypher wrote:
Maria Conlon wrote on 13 Nov 2004:
CyberCypher wrote:
Maria Conlon wrote on 13 Nov 2004:
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It would be nice to have a back-up for times like these.
If you can access Yahoo and other Web sites, surely you can
access Google Groups 2 Beta. That's better than nothing.
Is it? Isn't it hours late? I've never tried it. Perhaps next
time, I will.
The regular edition of Google groups is anywhere from 3-9 hours
behind
time, but I think GG2Beta is real-time. Mike Lyle knows more about
it
than I do, though.
I still have it bookmarked, along with Google Groups Old Style. But I
haven't checked its functioning for several weeks. It's at:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.usage.english?msg=subscribe
I'm also replying via Google Beta to see what happens.
Are they going to fix searches so you can look up something someone said |
and not also get everything someone else said that's still in the
requote?
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"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."
+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
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Nell
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:01 am
Post subject: Re: German server down? |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:59:47 -0500, "Maria Conlon"
<mariaconlon001@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | John Seeliger wrote:
Maria Conlon wrote:
[1] With SBC-Yahoo, there is no good way to access Usenet. Yahoo has
a few groups, but they really just encourage lists and message
boards of some kind. Phooey. If there's some secret to getting aue
through SBC-Yahoo, I'd sure like to know what it is. It would be
nice to have a back-up for times like these.
Generally the secret is just asking your ISP.
I have asked my ISP (which is SBC-Yahoo). Their support people don't
even know what I'm talking about. ("Newsgroup? You mean a list?") Why
SBC hooked up with Yahoo for this venture is a mystery to me.
......At least when a new
group comes on the scene, it often doesn't get picked up and people
will have to ask their ISPs to add the group.
[...]
I do plan to lobby for actual newsgroups on Yahoo. Wish me luck.
Maria Conlon
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MSN doesn't have a news server, either. They have their MSN Groups
(very similar to Yahoo groups). Comcast uses Giganews (1 gigabyte per
month or cycle). When the German server was down (I wasn't sure what
was going on), I put in my info for Giganews. I have both on Mozilla
Thunderbird but I decided to go back to using Free Agent. I was having
problems flagging threads to watch (IOW I don't know how to do it and
the help page is unhelpful). |
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Skitt
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:01 am
Post subject: Re: German server down? |
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Nell wrote:
| Quote: | "Maria Conlon" wrote:
John Seeliger wrote:
Maria Conlon wrote:
[1] With SBC-Yahoo, there is no good way to access Usenet. Yahoo
has a few groups, but they really just encourage lists and message
boards of some kind. Phooey. If there's some secret to getting aue
through SBC-Yahoo, I'd sure like to know what it is. It would be
nice to have a back-up for times like these.
Generally the secret is just asking your ISP.
I have asked my ISP (which is SBC-Yahoo). Their support people don't
even know what I'm talking about. ("Newsgroup? You mean a list?") Why
SBC hooked up with Yahoo for this venture is a mystery to me.
......At least when a new
group comes on the scene, it often doesn't get picked up and people
will have to ask their ISPs to add the group.
[...]
I do plan to lobby for actual newsgroups on Yahoo. Wish me luck.
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SBC has a newsserver, but it is a crappy one. I don't know whether
SBC-Yahoo customers can access it.
| Quote: | MSN doesn't have a news server, either. They have their MSN Groups
(very similar to Yahoo groups). Comcast uses Giganews (1 gigabyte per
month or cycle). When the German server was down (I wasn't sure what
was going on), I put in my info for Giganews.
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Comcast has netnews.comcast.net as their newsserver. It is almost as good
as the German server, but not quite as fast.
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/ |
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Nell
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:02 am
Post subject: Re: German server down? |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 13:46:22 -0800, "Skitt" <skitt99@comcast.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | Nell wrote:
MSN doesn't have a news server, either. They have their MSN Groups
(very similar to Yahoo groups). Comcast uses Giganews (1 gigabyte per
month or cycle). When the German server was down (I wasn't sure what
was going on), I put in my info for Giganews.
Comcast has netnews.comcast.net as their newsserver. It is almost as good
as the German server, but not quite as fast.
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I looked at the my account settings and it's
"news.comcast.giganews.com". Say it out loud and it's almost lyrical.
The only problem with the Comcast news server isn't the speed but
chancing going to the limit and not being able to use it for days or
weeks. I don't do a lot of newsgroups and no binaries so I probably
don't have much to be concerned about.
Free Agent gives the choice of one news server and it's German one
that's in the settiings. I've got both servers in Thunderbird. They're
treated like separate accounts. |
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Don Aitken
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:02 am
Post subject: Re: German server down? |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:51:43 -0500, Nell
<mildredskidnospam_atall@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 13:46:22 -0800, "Skitt" <skitt99@comcast.net
wrote:
Nell wrote:
MSN doesn't have a news server, either. They have their MSN Groups
(very similar to Yahoo groups). Comcast uses Giganews (1 gigabyte per
month or cycle). When the German server was down (I wasn't sure what
was going on), I put in my info for Giganews.
Comcast has netnews.comcast.net as their newsserver. It is almost as good
as the German server, but not quite as fast.
I looked at the my account settings and it's
"news.comcast.giganews.com". Say it out loud and it's almost lyrical.
The only problem with the Comcast news server isn't the speed but
chancing going to the limit and not being able to use it for days or
weeks. I don't do a lot of newsgroups and no binaries so I probably
don't have much to be concerned about.
Free Agent gives the choice of one news server and it's German one
that's in the settiings. I've got both servers in Thunderbird. They're
treated like separate accounts.
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It is simple enough to set up more than one "instance" of Agent or
Free Agent. If you have plenty of disk space, the easiest way is to
copy the entire Agent folder and its subfolders into a new location
and set up another desktop shortcut (with a different name) to point
to it. Then change the server name, and anything else you want to
change. The two instances operate entirely independently of each
other, with each using its own database and settings. The boxes for
"Make Agent the web browser service for Usenet News" and "for Email"
which are at
Options | General Preferences | URLs
should be checked in no more than *one* instance, and unchecked in the
other or others. This is the only setting which Agent keeps in the
Windows registry.
--
Don Aitken
Mail to the addresses given in the headers is no longer being
read. To mail me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com". |
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Skitt
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:03 am
Post subject: Re: German server down? |
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Nell wrote:
| Quote: | "Skitt" wrote:
Nell wrote:
MSN doesn't have a news server, either. They have their MSN Groups
(very similar to Yahoo groups). Comcast uses Giganews (1 gigabyte
per month or cycle). When the German server was down (I wasn't sure
what was going on), I put in my info for Giganews.
Comcast has netnews.comcast.net as their newsserver. It is almost
as good as the German server, but not quite as fast.
I looked at the my account settings and it's
"news.comcast.giganews.com". Say it out loud and it's almost lyrical.
The only problem with the Comcast news server isn't the speed but
chancing going to the limit and not being able to use it for days or
weeks. I don't do a lot of newsgroups and no binaries so I probably
don't have much to be concerned about.
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What limit? BTW, I wasn't kidding about netnews.comcast.net. That is what
I have as my backup to the German server.
| Quote: | Free Agent gives the choice of one news server and it's German one
that's in the settiings. I've got both servers in Thunderbird. They're
treated like separate accounts.
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OE allows as many newsservers as you wish. Switching is only a click away.
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/ |
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