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Adrian Bailey
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:15 am
Post subject: deja vu |
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This evening we were discussing how long the purchase of a breadmaker would
take to pay for itself and I did a few calculations** on a piece of
polystyrene that had been in the box the new storage radiator came in and,
yup, there it was: deja vu. I had a look at
http://people.howstuffworks.com/question657.htm and the links on the page,
and I've kind of come to the conclusion that if the experience is one we
might've had before it's not deja vu, but if it's clear that we can't have
done or dreamt it before, it is. That would make what's to me the less
spooky feeling the non-deja-vu one, which doesn't seem right somehow.
** One year.
Bonus question: has there ever been a suitable English-language name for
this phenomenon? Could you invent one?
Adrian
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Dylan Nicholson
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:16 am
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | This evening we were discussing how long the purchase of a breadmaker would
take to pay for itself and I did a few calculations** on a piece of
polystyrene that had been in the box the new storage radiator came in and,
yup, there it was: deja vu. I had a look at
http://people.howstuffworks.com/question657.htm and the links on the page,
and I've kind of come to the conclusion that if the experience is one we
might've had before it's not deja vu, but if it's clear that we can't have
done or dreamt it before, it is. That would make what's to me the less
spooky feeling the non-deja-vu one, which doesn't seem right somehow.
** One year.
Bonus question: has there ever been a suitable English-language name for
this phenomenon? Could you invent one?
What, writing on polystyrene? Didn't even think that was possible. |
As far as calculating how long it takes till something pays for itself -
sounds like simple economics to me. |
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Freddy
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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"Jess Askin" <nospam@dontbother.net> wrote in message
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"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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This evening we were discussing how long the purchase of a breadmaker
would
take to pay for itself and I did a few calculations** on a piece of
polystyrene that had been in the box the new storage radiator came in
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I'm quite experienced in this area. My advice is carefully pack the
breadmaker back in its box, putting the polystyrene to one side. Throw box
and contents out the window. Carefully butter polysyrene and add your
favorite spread. Enjoy.
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Arcadian Rises
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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| Quote: | From: "Adrian Bailey" dadge@hotmail.com
This evening we were discussing how long the purchase of a breadmaker would
take to pay for itself and I did a few calculations**
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Did you include the price of labor in your calculations? If you did, at what
rate, your regualar rate or a baker's rate?
And if you take into account that a baker is at least three times faster than
you at making bread, you may be a lot richer if you get rid of that animal
pronto than you'd be in
That's about the time it took me to unwrap it, read the instructions, wrap it
back and give it away.
Sorry, I don't want to discurage your new hobby, but I urge you to be honest
and not delude yourself with those "calculations" and rationalization for
buying yourself a new dust gathering and space consuming toy.
| Quote: | Bonus question: has there ever been a suitable English-language name for
this phenomenon? Could you invent one?
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Almost every year I buy yet another gym device hoping that "this one" is
definitely going to energize me. Every time I buy a new one, I have the same
"deja vecu" feeling of optimism cum determination, which is gradually replaced
by guilt for not accomplishing yet another resolution.
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:06 am
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"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_Gwkd.12455$Q7.10259@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| Quote: | This evening we were discussing how long the purchase of a breadmaker
would
take to pay for itself and I did a few calculations** on a piece of
polystyrene that had been in the box the new storage radiator came in and,
yup, there it was: deja vu. I had a look at
http://people.howstuffworks.com/question657.htm and the links on the page,
and I've kind of come to the conclusion that if the experience is one we
might've had before it's not deja vu, but if it's clear that we can't have
done or dreamt it before, it is. That would make what's to me the less
spooky feeling the non-deja-vu one, which doesn't seem right somehow.
** One year.
Bonus question: has there ever been a suitable English-language name for
this phenomenon? Could you invent one?
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Dunno, but how much did you pay for the bloody thing? They were practically
giving them away at WalMart a couple years back. |
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Richard Chambers
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote
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and I've kind of come to the conclusion that if the experience is one we
might've had before it's not deja vu, but if it's clear that we can't have
done or dreamt it before, it is. That would make what's to me the less
spooky feeling the non-deja-vu one, which doesn't seem right somehow.
** One year.
Bonus question: has there ever been a suitable English-language name for
this phenomenon? Could you invent one?
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bintheredunthatgottheteeshirt. |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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Adrian Bailey filted:
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This evening we were discussing how long the purchase of a breadmaker would
take to pay for itself and I did a few calculations** on a piece of
polystyrene that had been in the box the new storage radiator came in and,
yup, there it was: deja vu. I had a look at
http://people.howstuffworks.com/question657.htm and the links on the page,
and I've kind of come to the conclusion that if the experience is one we
might've had before it's not deja vu, but if it's clear that we can't have
done or dreamt it before, it is. That would make what's to me the less
spooky feeling the non-deja-vu one, which doesn't seem right somehow.
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If I understand your meaning, "deja vu" should mean "I feel I've done this
before, but reason tells me I haven't", while the new term should mean "I feel
I've done this before, and I very likely have"....
| Quote: | Bonus question: has there ever been a suitable English-language name for
this phenomenon? Could you invent one?
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"Ennui"?...r |
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John O'Flaherty
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:37 pm
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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Arcadian Rises wrote:
| Quote: | From: "Adrian Bailey" dadge@hotmail.com
This evening we were discussing how long the purchase of a breadmaker would
take to pay for itself and I did a few calculations**
Did you include the price of labor in your calculations? If you did, at what
rate, your regualar rate or a baker's rate?
And if you take into account that a baker is at least three times faster than
you at making bread, you may be a lot richer if you get rid of that animal
pronto than you'd be in
** One year.
That's about the time it took me to unwrap it, read the instructions, wrap it
back and give it away.
Sorry, I don't want to discurage your new hobby, but I urge you to be honest
and not delude yourself with those "calculations" and rationalization for
buying yourself a new dust gathering and space consuming toy.
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There's one thing you can get with a bread machine that's almost
impossible to get from a bakery: almost 100% whole wheat bread with no
added sugar or corn syrup. You can use 80% graham flour, 20% unbleached
white flour, yeast, water, and a little bit of olive oil, and get a
nice, chewy, dense bread that's probably healthier than anything else
but no bread at all. It makes really rich, funky-smelling toast. If you
use an electric knife and a cutting frame, you can make your own sliced
bread without very little manual labor kneaded.
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john |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:48 pm
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Adrian Bailey wrote:
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Bonus question: has there ever been a suitable English-language name
for this phenomenon? Could you invent one?
Repetition |
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John Dean
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:07 pm
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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Arcadian Rises filted:
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Like while eating a madeleine, all of a sudden remembering the taste of
childhood?
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I admire the way you swan....r |
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Pat Durkin
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:08 pm
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I had a look at
http://people.howstuffworks.com/question657.htm and the links on the page,
and I've kind of come to the conclusion that if the experience is one we
might've had before it's not deja vu, but if it's clear that we can't have
done or dreamt it before, it is. That would make what's to me the less
spooky feeling the non-deja-vu one, which doesn't seem right somehow.
Bonus question: has there ever been a suitable English-language name for
this phenomenon? Could you invent one?
I can recall reading an article explaining the nature and cause of dreams. |
One of the explanations seemed to me to fit "deja vu" as well. I can't
recall the term used in the article, but I find "body memory" or "muscular
memory" carries the feeling I get when I have a deja vu moment. The
particular moments for me tend to be related to a quick turn of the head, or
a shift of the eyes to another (sidewise) focus. Another cause might be an
arm movement, usually involving the elbow.
As with many people, the moment's recollection can be so real as to cause me
to drop my chain of thought or even my conversational topic. |
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John Varela
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| Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: deja vu |
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:33:30 UTC, "Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | if the experience is one we
might've had before it's not deja vu, but if it's clear that we can't have
done or dreamt it before, it is.
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How can you identify what you can't have dreamt before?
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John Varela
(Trade "OLD" lamps for "NEW" for email.)
I apologize for munging the address but the spam was too much. |
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