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the Omrud
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:03 am
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Linz typed thus:
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"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote in message
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We've had that in the UK for a decade - it's called Programme
Delivery Control. A signal is added to the teletext lines which
indicates at what time the programme was scheduled to start, and
the VCR looks for that rather than starting at the time
programmed. It records until it gets another signal indicating
that the programme has finished. Works perfectly.
ITYM works perfectly when the signals are sent correctly. I gave up with
PDC when I kept getting 1 minute of Babylon5, or the first half of a
motorsports programme or nothing at all despite 2 of us checking the
numbers as we programmed the VCR.
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I've heard other people relate similar experiences, but ours always
worked perfectly. I can only think that some regions have it set up
better than others.
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David
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:03 am
Post subject: Re: BBC America |
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:32:14 -0800, Charles Riggs
<chriggs@comcást.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:16:47 -0000, "Linz"
spam@nospam.lindsayendell.org.uk> wrote:
"don groves" <dgroves@domain.net> wrote in message
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In article <2vn20hF2n11lnU1@uni-berlin.de>, Maria Conlon at
mariaconlon001@hotmail.com exposited:
Tony Cooper wrote:
Oh, well. I don't have any interest in keeping a movie around
once I've watched it.
Same here, usually. (Not that I see or watch many movies these
days. See below.) Brian (my husband) can watch a movie
repeatedly. He even watches bits and pieces of movies. I can't
understand that at all. Rereading books, is, of course,
different. :-)
Maybe it's a guy thing. I've got a few favorties I can watch once
or twice a year and never tire of them. Some due to great acting,
others to great humor.
It's not just a guy thing. Or maybe I'm a guy in disguise.
It is a question not of sex but of whether one is a higher-order
individual or a philistine. Brutes watch great films only once, tiring
of them quickly due to their lack of imagination and refinement.
Brutes approach all works of art, books included, in that same way.
True brutes are, thankfully, relatively rare.
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That's certainly one way of looking at it. The other might be the
"been there, done that" view of the brutes that are able to get it in
one.
I must admit that the one film genre that I can watch several times
with the same interest is the old Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies
cartoon. It seems that even though I know the plot, the action
sustains. I am looking forward to looking backward with my grandson
if I can find these still being shown. |
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Matti Lamprhey
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:02 am
Post subject: Re: BBC America |
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"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote...
| Quote: | Linz typed thus:
"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote...
We've had that in the UK for a decade - it's called Programme
Delivery Control. A signal is added to the teletext lines which
indicates at what time the programme was scheduled to start, and
the VCR looks for that rather than starting at the time
programmed. It records until it gets another signal indicating
that the programme has finished. Works perfectly.
ITYM works perfectly when the signals are sent correctly. I gave up
with PDC when I kept getting 1 minute of Babylon5, or the first half
of a motorsports programme or nothing at all despite 2 of us
checking the numbers as we programmed the VCR.
I've heard other people relate similar experiences, but ours always
worked perfectly. I can only think that some regions have it set up
better than others.
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I think it depends on how it's implemented in the VCR. PDC was
pioneered in the UK by Channel 4, but with only lip service to the
official specification; "stop" codes weren't implemented, so the system
relied on VCRs stopping when the code changed or ceased for a certain
period. VCRs were designed around this eccentric implementation. Then
the BBC started to use PDC, but did it more correctly; you know the
rest.
Matti
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:04 am
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"Tony Cooper" <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:32:14 -0800, Charles Riggs
chriggs@comcást.net> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:16:47 -0000, "Linz"
spam@nospam.lindsayendell.org.uk> wrote:
"don groves" <dgroves@domain.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bfffe72aff73c0d989b1d@news.individual.net...
In article <2vn20hF2n11lnU1@uni-berlin.de>, Maria Conlon at
mariaconlon001@hotmail.com exposited:
Tony Cooper wrote:
Oh, well. I don't have any interest in keeping a movie around
once I've watched it.
Same here, usually. (Not that I see or watch many movies these
days. See below.) Brian (my husband) can watch a movie
repeatedly. He even watches bits and pieces of movies. I can't
understand that at all. Rereading books, is, of course,
different. :-)
Maybe it's a guy thing. I've got a few favorties I can watch once
or twice a year and never tire of them. Some due to great acting,
others to great humor.
It's not just a guy thing. Or maybe I'm a guy in disguise.
It is a question not of sex but of whether one is a higher-order
individual or a philistine. Brutes watch great films only once, tiring
of them quickly due to their lack of imagination and refinement.
Brutes approach all works of art, books included, in that same way.
True brutes are, thankfully, relatively rare.
That's certainly one way of looking at it. The other might be the
"been there, done that" view of the brutes that are able to get it in
one.
I must admit that the one film genre that I can watch several times
with the same interest is the old Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies
cartoon. It seems that even though I know the plot, the action
sustains. I am looking forward to looking backward with my grandson
if I can find these still being shown.
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Cartoon Network. |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:05 am
Post subject: Re: BBC America |
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Jess Askin filted:
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"Tony Cooper" <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:vlpsp09vnfdkipshp8l9iia1nvfpn240ct@4ax.com...
I must admit that the one film genre that I can watch several times
with the same interest is the old Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies
cartoon. It seems that even though I know the plot, the action
sustains. I am looking forward to looking backward with my grandson
if I can find these still being shown.
Cartoon Network.
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Also two sets of four DVDs each called the "Looney Tunes Golden
Collection"...when you tire of simply watching "What's Opera, Doc?", you can
select one of the alternate audio tracks and hear a discussion of the thought
processes that went into the coloring of the background, or of the mishmash of
Wagner pieces stitched together to create the score, or of how Chuck Jones
managed to get it done by stealing time from easy-to-make Road Runner cartoons
(the Warner Brothers' accountants had the impression that every cartoon takes
exactly five weeks to make, no more, no less)....
Skip the "Prestige Collection", by the way...it's a scaled-down version of the
same package....
I'm still trying to find a DVD source for the earlier black-and-white Merrie
Melodies from the pre-Porky era....r |
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Jim Ward
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: crud, crap [WAS: BBC America] |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:43:55 +0100, trio@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux)
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| Quote: | Although they may be used interchangeably by some, "crap" has the basic
meaning of "feces," while "crud" is merely something undesirable, like
sediment or rubbish. M-W says it is cognate with "curd," which I didn't
know, and it comes from Old English crudan, "to press." I can see "crud"
being the stuff left over after you press out the juice.
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Speaking of "crap" one of a characters in a book I'm reading
interjects "Podverdomme!" Do you know what it means? |
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Mark Brader
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: crud, crap [WAS: BBC America] |
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Jim Ward writes:
| Quote: | Speaking of "crap" one of a characters in a book I'm reading
interjects "Podverdomme!" Do you know what it means?
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So, Jim, was this question addressed to Donna because you knew it
was Dutch?
Looks like "verdomme" is a cognate of German "verdammt" and means
something like "damned", but the pod- part isn't covered by the
online translation tools I tried...
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Unjutsly malinged? I think not."
msb@vex.net -- Ross Howard |
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Frances Kemmish
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: crud, crap [WAS: BBC America] |
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Mark Brader wrote:
| Quote: | Jim Ward writes:
Speaking of "crap" one of a characters in a book I'm reading
interjects "Podverdomme!" Do you know what it means?
So, Jim, was this question addressed to Donna because you knew it
was Dutch?
Looks like "verdomme" is a cognate of German "verdammt" and means
something like "damned", but the pod- part isn't covered by the
online translation tools I tried...
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I assumed it was a typo for "God verdamme" (I've probably spelt that
wrong). I remember my mother telling me in no uncertain terms that I was
never to say that in the hearing of my Dutch relatives.
Fran |
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Mark Brader
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: crud, crap [WAS: BBC America] |
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Jim Ward:
| Quote: | Speaking of "crap" one of a characters in a book I'm reading
interjects "Podverdomme!" Do you know what it means?
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Mark Brader:
| Quote: | Looks like "verdomme" is a cognate of German "verdammt" and means
something like "damned", but the pod- part isn't covered by the
online translation tools I tried...
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Frances Kemmish:
| Quote: | I assumed it was a typo for "God verdamme" (I've probably spelt that
wrong). ...
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Goddammit  , I should've thought of that. Google even *asked* if I
meant "godverdomme". But there were 20 hits on the other spelling,
which seemed reasonable if it was a sufficiently obscure word in a
language with relatively few speakers. And I also assumed Jim meant
that the character *habitually* said that. Was it just once?
I do note that G is nowhere near P on any keyboard I can think of --
not qwerty, not azerty, not Dvorak, not Linotype (etaoin shrdlu). So
if it *is* a typo, it's interesting that there are as many as 20 hits.
Compare:
godverdomme 45,800
podverdomme 20
goddamn 1,360,000
goddamnit 108,000
goddammit 139,000
poddamn 1
poddamnit 0
poddammit 0
(I also tried goddam/poddam, but the latter turns out to be a word
in Polish.)
Could it be a pun, or a euphemism in the style of "heck" for "hell"?
--
Mark Brader "I love talking about nothing.
Toronto It's the only thing I know anything about."
msb@vex.net --Lord Goring (Oscar Wilde: An Ideal Husband)
My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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Jim Ward
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:06 am
Post subject: Re: crud, crap [WAS: BBC America] |
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:21:14 -0000, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
| Quote: | Jim Ward:
Speaking of "crap" one of a characters in a book I'm reading
interjects "Podverdomme!" Do you know what it means?
Mark Brader:
Looks like "verdomme" is a cognate of German "verdammt" and means
something like "damned", but the pod- part isn't covered by the
online translation tools I tried...
Frances Kemmish:
I assumed it was a typo for "God verdamme" (I've probably spelt that
wrong). ...
Goddammit , I should've thought of that. Google even *asked* if I
meant "godverdomme". But there were 20 hits on the other spelling,
which seemed reasonable if it was a sufficiently obscure word in a
language with relatively few speakers. And I also assumed Jim meant
that the character *habitually* said that. Was it just once?
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I just checked, definitely "Podver". The character grew up in Holland,
moved to America as a child, but always curses in Dutch when suddenly
suprised (the influence of his uncles).
When I'm suprised, I blurt "Holy Shit!" (nothing special about that). |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:01 pm
Post subject: Re: crud, crap [WAS: BBC America] |
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Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:21:14 -0000, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
Jim Ward:
Speaking of "crap" one of a characters in a book I'm reading
interjects "Podverdomme!" Do you know what it means?
Mark Brader:
Looks like "verdomme" is a cognate of German "verdammt" and means
something like "damned", but the pod- part isn't covered by the
online translation tools I tried...
Frances Kemmish:
I assumed it was a typo for "God verdamme" (I've probably spelt that
wrong). ...
Goddammit , I should've thought of that. Google even *asked* if I
meant "godverdomme". But there were 20 hits on the other spelling,
which seemed reasonable if it was a sufficiently obscure word in a
language with relatively few speakers. And I also assumed Jim meant
that the character *habitually* said that. Was it just once?
I just checked, definitely "Podver". The character grew up in Holland,
moved to America as a child, but always curses in Dutch when suddenly
suprised (the influence of his uncles).
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My knowledge of Dutch swear words --> head of pin. But my Dutch-English
dic says poddam = dash it. So, euphemistic alteration.
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Best - Donna Richoux |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:01 pm
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:41:42 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:32:14 -0800, Charles Riggs
chriggs@comcást.net> wrote:
It is a question not of sex but of whether one is a higher-order
individual or a philistine. Brutes watch great films only once, tiring
of them quickly due to their lack of imagination and refinement.
Brutes approach all works of art, books included, in that same way.
True brutes are, thankfully, relatively rare.
That's certainly one way of looking at it. The other might be the
"been there, done that" view of the brutes that are able to get it in
one.
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If you can appreciate all the nuances of a fine painting, a great
book, or a masterful film in one go, have at it. Even if you could
though, I'd wonder why you'd want to. There are only so many great
works of art in the world to contemplate.
--
Charles Riggs
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:00 am
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Ray Heindl typed thus:
| Quote: | Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote:
Elsewhere in the book:
"In Holland, typically, one can expect the wind to strengthen the
moment you get on a bicycle and to turn as you do, so that no
matter which direction you bike you will always be biking into a
gale-force headwind."
I guess the wind takes the place of the hills that burden cyclists
elsewhere.
(Is Holland really very flat, or is that just a stereotype?)
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Very flat. Yes. Highest point is about 300 metres above sea level.
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David
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:00 am
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the Omrud wrote:
| Quote: | Ray Heindl typed thus:
Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote:
Elsewhere in the book:
"In Holland, typically, one can expect the wind to strengthen the
moment you get on a bicycle and to turn as you do, so that no
matter which direction you bike you will always be biking into a
gale-force headwind."
I guess the wind takes the place of the hills that burden cyclists
elsewhere.
(Is Holland really very flat, or is that just a stereotype?)
Very flat. Yes. Highest point is about 300 metres above sea
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Very flat, Holland.
Mike. |
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Areff
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:00 am
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Ray Heindl wrote:
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Yes. That's why the Dutch so liked what is now Brooklyn (FLCIA), as well
as Michigan.
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Steny '08! |
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