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Will
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.

Am I right?

Will.

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Donna Richoux
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

Will <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.

Am I right?

It's a reasonable guess, and maybe someone used it metaphorically like
that, but actually it usually refers to an actual, traditional ornament
or statue -- originally a hitching post. Here's a picture of one from
Google Images:

http://www.confluence.org/us/va/n38w077/pic4.jpg

The earlier form would show a black servant or slave offering to hold
one's horse; these became symbols of racism (like cigar-store Indians).

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Don Phillipson
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

"Will" <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.
Am I right?

No: think garden gnome. The lawn jockey
(formerly usually Negro) about two feet high
is the single most common figurative lawn
ornament found in the USA.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

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Jess Askin
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

"Donna Richoux" <trio@euronet.nl> wrote in message
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Quote:
Will <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote:

While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.

Am I right?

It's a reasonable guess, and maybe someone used it metaphorically like
that, but actually it usually refers to an actual, traditional ornament
or statue -- originally a hitching post. Here's a picture of one from
Google Images:

http://www.confluence.org/us/va/n38w077/pic4.jpg

The earlier form would show a black servant or slave offering to hold
one's horse; these became symbols of racism (like cigar-store Indians).

Later replaced by a version where the guy looked kind of like Joey Bishop --
popular mostly with Jewish families, would be my guess.
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Will
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

billrigby@hotmail.com (Will) wrote in message news:<d36f7597.0411100317.3577e030@posting.google.com>...
Quote:
While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.

Of course, I meant either "who sat astride a sit-on lawn mower" or
"who bestrode a sit-on lawn mower".

Will.
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Tony Cooper
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:48:27 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
<d.phillipson@ttrryytteell.com> wrote:

Quote:
"Will" <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.
Am I right?

Once a week I mount my riding lawn mower (the US term) and mow the
grass. A menial task, but I don't know if you could say it was done
by a menial.

Quote:
No: think garden gnome. The lawn jockey
(formerly usually Negro) about two feet high
is the single most common figurative lawn
ornament found in the USA.

This is the lawn jockey that has been front of our house for several
decades. http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/jockey.jpg
Before that, it was in front of my parent's house.

He stands 3.5 feet tall, he's made of concrete, he's never been
painted, and he has generic facial features. No horse has ever been
tied to that ring, but he stands ready.
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Pat Durkin
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

"Will" <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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trio@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux) wrote in message
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Will <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote:

While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.

Am I right?

It's a reasonable guess, and maybe someone used it metaphorically like
that, but actually it usually refers to an actual, traditional ornament
or statue -- originally a hitching post. Here's a picture of one from
Google Images:

http://www.confluence.org/us/va/n38w077/pic4.jpg

The earlier form would show a black servant or slave offering to hold
one's horse; these became symbols of racism (like cigar-store Indians).

I read your reply (for which many thanks) and was minded to ask why
such an item sould be called a "lawn jockey". That was before I
opened the picture. Here in the UK we (well, not me or mine, but
others) decorate their gardens with gnomes. For the traditional
variety, look here:

http://store1.yimg.com/I/kimmelgnomes_1815_182742

For something a little more à mon goût, try this:

http://www.bifrost.com.au/hosting/gnomes/



Ah. At last. Gnomes with hats colored other than red, (although later on
the page the reversion occurs).

By some strange coincidence, two of my immediate neighbors have such
red-capped gnomes. One figure is a two-fer. Both have the figures on the
steps to their stoops.

An item of greater popularity than gnomes in my walking neighborhood is the
doggie behind. At Xmas time, one household puts lights on the doggie tail.
At least one has a motion sensor installed, so that the doggy behind wiggles
as one walks by, as if the pup has found something delightful in the
underbrush. A few weak "yips" can be heard, when the car traffic is light.
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Will
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

trio@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux) wrote in message news:<1gn1dsm.1d7u1xx1ebmv1rN%trio@euronet.nl>...
Quote:
Will <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote:

While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.

Am I right?

It's a reasonable guess, and maybe someone used it metaphorically like
that, but actually it usually refers to an actual, traditional ornament
or statue -- originally a hitching post. Here's a picture of one from
Google Images:

http://www.confluence.org/us/va/n38w077/pic4.jpg

The earlier form would show a black servant or slave offering to hold
one's horse; these became symbols of racism (like cigar-store Indians).

I read your reply (for which many thanks) and was minded to ask why
such an item sould be called a "lawn jockey". That was before I
opened the picture. Here in the UK we (well, not me or mine, but
others) decorate their gardens with gnomes. For the traditional
variety, look here:

http://store1.yimg.com/I/kimmelgnomes_1815_182742

For something a little more à mon goût, try this:

http://www.bifrost.com.au/hosting/gnomes/

Will.
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Don A. Gilmore
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

"Don Phillipson" <d.phillipson@ttrryytteell.com> wrote in message
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"Will" <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.
Am I right?

No: think garden gnome. The lawn jockey
(formerly usually Negro) about two feet high
is the single most common figurative lawn
ornament found in the USA.


Don't forget the reflective ball and accompanying concrete Jesus.

Don
Kansas City
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rzed
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

"Don Phillipson" <d.phillipson@ttrryytteell.com> wrote in
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The lawn jockey
(formerly usually Negro) about two feet high
is the single most common figurative lawn
ornament found in the USA.


More common than bathtub virgins? Not where I come from.

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rzed
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Poet Fury
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:48:27 -0500, Don Phillipson wrote:

Quote:
No: think garden gnome. The lawn jockey
(formerly usually Negro) about two feet high
is the single most common figurative lawn
ornament found in the USA.

Beating out pink flamingos?

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R H Draney
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

Jess Askin filted:
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"Donna Richoux" <trio@euronet.nl> wrote in message
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The earlier form would show a black servant or slave offering to hold
one's horse; these became symbols of racism (like cigar-store Indians).

Later replaced by a version where the guy looked kind of like Joey Bishop --
popular mostly with Jewish families, would be my guess.

Why would Jewish families want a Bishop on their lawns?...

(Ba-RUM-pum!)...r
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don groves
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

In article <cmtlun016m2@drn.newsguy.com>, R H Draney at
dadoctah@spamcop.net exposited:
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Jess Askin filted:

"Donna Richoux" <trio@euronet.nl> wrote in message
news:1gn1dsm.1d7u1xx1ebmv1rN%trio@euronet.nl...

The earlier form would show a black servant or slave offering to hold
one's horse; these became symbols of racism (like cigar-store Indians).

Later replaced by a version where the guy looked kind of like Joey Bishop --
popular mostly with Jewish families, would be my guess.

Why would Jewish families want a Bishop on their lawns?...

(Ba-RUM-pum!)...r

Unless they're Aussies, then they might want a joey.

(ba-ba-boom!)
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dg (domain=ccwebster)
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Steve Hayes
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

On 10 Nov 2004 03:17:00 -0800, billrigby@hotmail.com (Will) wrote:

Quote:
While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.

Am I right?

"Astride", not "bestride".


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E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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John Varela
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: Lawn jockey Reply with quote

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:53:59 UTC, "Don A. Gilmore" <eromlignodNOSPM@kc.rr.com>
wrote:

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"Don Phillipson" <d.phillipson@ttrryytteell.com> wrote in message
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"Will" <billrigby@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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While reading Jeffrey Eugenides' "Middlesex" I came across the term
"lawn jockey". At the time, I took it to mean a menial who sat
bestride a sit-on lawn-mower.
Am I right?

No: think garden gnome. The lawn jockey
(formerly usually Negro) about two feet high
is the single most common figurative lawn
ornament found in the USA.


Don't forget the reflective ball and accompanying concrete Jesus.

That's called a "gazing ball".

Don't St. Francises outnumber Jesuses?

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John Varela
(Trade "OLD" lamps for "NEW" for email.)
I apologize for munging the address but the spam was too much.
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